July 26, 2005

LIKE FINDING COALS IN NEW CASTLE:

Ancient phallus unearthed in cave (Jonathan Amos, 7/26/05, BBC News)

A sculpted and polished phallus found in a German cave is among the earliest representations of male sexuality ever uncovered, researchers say.

The 20cm-long, 3cm-wide stone object, which is dated to be about 28,000 years old, was buried in the famous Hohle Fels Cave near Ulm in the Swabian Jura.


Its sister piece is certain to be found in France.

Posted by Orrin Judd at July 26, 2005 12:00 AM
Comments

I would have thought its sister piece was the cave.

Posted by: Guy T. at July 26, 2005 10:23 AM

OJ just likes to make cheap jokes at the expense of the French. It helps him justify the fact that he never leaves his own time zone, but feels comfortable insulting other people's cultures.

Posted by: bart at July 26, 2005 11:56 AM

Bart complaining about insults? Irony?

Everybody makes cheap jokes at the expense of the French.

Posted by: Bob at July 26, 2005 12:38 PM

They're a cheap people. For a chocolate bar they'll sell you a sister's services and tell you who's hiding Jews.

Posted by: oj at July 26, 2005 12:40 PM

So the Christians can kill them.

Posted by: Harry Eagar at July 26, 2005 2:40 PM

Nazis weren't Christians.

Posted by: Bob at July 26, 2005 3:19 PM

That would of course come as a surprise to Cardinal Faulhaber, Cardinal Stepinac and Monsignor Tiso, along with the countless military chaplains assigned to attend to the spiritual needs of the concentration camp guards, including SS men.

It would also be pretty surprising I'm sure to the French Catholic monks who hid Paul Touvier from French Justice officials for about 3 decades after WWII and those Vatican officials involved with the OSS and CIA in smuggling Nazis out of Europe through the Vatican Ratline.

The French deserve lots of criticism, less for their actions during WWII(which are extremely complex, multi-faceted and confusing as my own family's various fates would demonstrate) however craven, than for their current behavior and some of their over-weening arrogance of the last 4-5 decades, starting with DeGaulle's screwing of the French Algerians. It's been all downhill since then.

Posted by: bart at July 26, 2005 4:03 PM

The German military wasn't necessarily Nazi any more than the Soviet was Stalinist.

there were of course men who were both Christian and favorably disposed to the Nazis, but Nazism was antithetical to Christianity.

Posted by: oj at July 26, 2005 4:09 PM

I wonder how it got polished....

Posted by: RC at July 26, 2005 4:16 PM

But millions of Christians joined the Nazi Party, the SS, the Hitler Youth, etc. and participated in the Holocaust, while considering themselves good Christians in the process. That may have been an erroneous interpretation of Christianity but it existed nonetheless.

Posted by: bart at July 26, 2005 4:38 PM

bart. Have you forgotten the orphans of Lyon? I have despised and disdained everything French since as a mere babe, but a precocious reader, I learned all I needed to know about the French.

Nothing I have learned in intervening 60+ years has caused me to change my mind, not withstanding that I have a beautiful 13 year old grandchild whose mother is French. She has the good sense to want to come to live in the U.S. as soon as she can. Apparently her grandfather's Sicilian genes beat out her effete French ones.

Posted by: erp at July 26, 2005 5:19 PM

Even at its peak the Nazi Party only ever had seven million members, or less than a third of the voting population in the early thirties. Inevitably some were Christians but it was well understood that Hitler hated Christianity and viewed Nazism as a replacement for Christianity, not a partner. The appeal of Nazism, specifically, and of all Darwinism, rationalism, paganism, generally, is that it promises liberation from Judeo-christian moral strictures. Becoming a Nazi is a way out from under God.

Posted by: oj at July 26, 2005 7:05 PM

Looks like these folks may have seen the handwriting on the wall. Un Autre Exode

Posted by: erp at July 26, 2005 7:54 PM

OJ is right. It is harder to to twist current events than it is history, so who are the jew haters today? Leftists and pagans. Perusing their websites, reading their signs at demonstrations, etc. it is apparent they are the heirs of Hitler. They've taken his views and taken them to where, logically, you would expect (and where will they be 20 years from now?). While it was counterintuitive to me at first, and would be to most, it's not. I think a mostly false picture, with a little bit of truth, was painted of Hitler in the aftermath to smear those on the Right, but when you understand who he was and what he was about, then the current Jew haters make alot more sense. Hitler was a pagan, he admired socialism, and resented the overachievement of the Jews. He romanticized the pagan era and idealistically wanted to return Europe to it.

I think the case some on this thread have made are able to be made because it was true that some Jew haters used Christianity to justify their hate. But Christianity in Europe and America today has been replaced in Jew haters with paganism or atheism, yet the antisemitism remains.

Posted by: Emily B. at July 26, 2005 8:17 PM

Emily,

Ever heard of Pat Buchanan, Joe Sobran, Charley Reese, Arnaud de Borchgrave, and Georgia Anne Geyer? Ever heard of the Church of Jesus Christ-Christian?

While it is true that since the 1967 Six Day War, there has been an upsurge in anti-semitism of the Left, it has always been there.(Just read some of the French leftists of the 19th century like Fourier and Proudhon) We have seen a downturn in it from most of the respectable Right, but it is still certainly in existence.

Posted by: bart at July 27, 2005 7:30 AM
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