June 14, 2005
YOU WON THE WAR...ACT LIKE IT:
'Old Europe' must reform or crumble, Blair warns leaders (David Charter, Philip Webster and Charles Bremner, 6/15/05, Times of London)
“If we want to reconnect people in Europe with the idea of the EU then we have got to set a new political direction and reconnect the priorities which the people have with the way we spend money in Europe,” said Mr Blair, who admitted “sharp disagreement” with the French leader.Posted by Orrin Judd at June 14, 2005 7:45 PM“It’s no longer possible to run Europe the way it used to be run, it’s got to be run on a different basis. We need a strong Europe, but it’s got to be a strong Europe of the right kind. The Franco-German relationship is very important but it cannot comprise all of what now drives Europe forward,” he said.
In a break with tradition that showed how cool relations have become, Mr Blair and M Chirac did not hold a joint press conference.
This fight over the subsidy is proving to be a bloody (click on image) one. Ya gotta admit, the French don't waste much time feeling chastened.
Posted by: Peter B at June 14, 2005 8:03 PMI have a law school classmate who also has a Phd in Agricultural Economics. We ran into each other a few days ago, and spoke briefly about the French vote on the constitution. He does some lobbying on trade bills, so he is very current on ag policies worldwide, and the ag subsidy is the biggest bone of contention between France and Blair (with several other countries on Britain's side.) He said the French ought to fear the Polish farmer a hell of a lot mnre than the proverbial Polish plumber--if Polish farmers got French level subsidies, it would break the EU, and if subsidies were eliminated and there was a free market in ag products, the Poles would wax the high cost French.
Posted by: Dan at June 14, 2005 9:24 PMBoy, is Spain a deadbeat country.
Posted by: Sandy P. at June 14, 2005 10:04 PMClick the link at the bottom of the page on the Times Article:
Graphic: Neighbours from hell
The click on the chart to enlarge it.
Also: from the Times:
Europe turmoil as treaty collapses
WHO PAYS WHAT:
Net contribution to the EU budget per capita 2003
France 19
UK 42
Common Agricultural Policy receipts per capita 2003
France 117
UK 45
Do you need to know anything else?
Posted by: Robert Schwartz at June 14, 2005 10:41 PMFrance, one of 25 member states, gets a quarter of the agricultural subsidies, which account for 40% of the total budget.
Frankly, M. Chirac has un nerve.
Posted by: Brit at June 15, 2005 4:04 AMNot quite. Actually, it's Gallic genius.
Posted by: Barry Meislin at June 15, 2005 5:01 AMThe French have used the EU to prop up perhaps the most inefficient agricultural sector in Europe. Lots of small holdings of 5 acres or less subsidized by the European taxpayer. The Germans aren't much better but at least the sector is a much smaller part of their workforce.
The only sensible vote by a Frenchman was for the EU because of the impact of subsidies on their economy. Without the subsidies and the compulsory purchase of French goods by EU member states, there would be no French economy at all but for a few luxury goods.
Would you buy a Renault?
Posted by: bart at June 15, 2005 5:13 AMBart:
But the only sensible vote for the Frenchman, or French farmer anyway, was against the EU constitution, because it is (supposed to be) full of the sorts of things that Anglo-Saxons like: competition, growth, work.
Unfortunately, the Anglo-Saxons don't like it either because it includes, among other absurdities, proposals for a common defence policy.
The constitution is a work of genius, with something to offend everyone.
Posted by: Brit at June 15, 2005 6:22 AMBrit,
Of course it was a work of genius. It was written by Valery Giscard d'Estaing, the former French President, a graduate of both ENA and the Polytechnique. (One can readily imagine Giscard walking around with a business card like Wile E. Coyote, reading 'Valery Giscard d'Estaing, Genius'.)
Posted by: bart at June 15, 2005 10:46 AMAnd when Wiley decides to upgrade himself to Supergenius, is about the time he realizes he's standing on the train tracks. A perfect metaphor for the recent events!
Posted by: Tom at June 15, 2005 3:57 PMTom,
When Giscard said for attribution that 'the Constitution is easy to understand. After all I wrote it myself,' all I could think of was Wile E Coyote filling carrots with nitro while the train was bearing down on him.
Posted by: bart at June 15, 2005 8:18 PM