June 1, 2005

WHO'D RIDE IN ONE OF THEM?:

Airbus delays deliveries of A380 superjet (Reuters, 6/01/05)

Airbus said on Wednesday deliveries of its 21st-century flagship, the double-decker A380 superjumbo, would be delayed by up to six months, taking the flourish off one of the most trumpeted aviation launches in decades.

Disgruntled airlines, at least one of which intends to seek compensation, announced the delay in delivering the largest passenger jet ever built just weeks after its maiden flight.


Try asking the next couple folks you talk to if they're willing to trust their lives to the French work ethic...

Posted by Orrin Judd at June 1, 2005 11:12 AM
Comments

Sounds like a snarky comment taken from an Airbus-bashing aviation website. Some that I drop in on are quite vicious. Airline people are not a happy group these days.

While the A380 may be overblown as the 'savior' of Airbus, it certainly is flying just fine, and will probably be a mainstay for some time, once the bugs are worked out.

Posted by: jim hamlen at June 1, 2005 11:47 AM

Jim - in earlier posts on this plane the point was that who would want to fly in one given that it holds a ridiculous number of passengers (600?800?). You'd need to be on a transatlantic flight in order for there to be enough time for the attendents to bring you your soda and peanuts. And who knows how long to embark/disembark, get your luggage, etc.

Posted by: AWW at June 1, 2005 11:57 AM

You will never ride on an A380 unless you are going on the hadj. Remember, there will be no cocktail service on those flights, and no stewaress in mini-skirts, but there will be plenty of barbecued goat, cooked right in front of you, and the flight attendants will be carrying AK47s and wearing wraparound shades.

Posted by: Robert Schwartz at June 1, 2005 12:09 PM

It'll probably fly just fine so long as the control surfaces don't delaminate. Problem with it is it's too big, and likely won't be full enough on most routes to pay for itself.

Posted by: Mike Morley at June 1, 2005 12:39 PM

Let us avoid snarkiness as a matter of course. It feels good but accomplishes little.

I would like actually to fly on one just to check it out, prefarably one without all 800 seats. But let us keep a cold rational eye on this.

It really smacks of Soviet gigantism, that is, building it so they can say "WE'RE THE BIGGEST.... unlike those pathetic Americans", etc. But will it fly economically?

Someone painted a picture imagining eight of these, flown by United, at O'Hare. Now imagine the gates. "Here's your ticket, sir, gate B-17. B-1 is right over there." Great. That's a mile and a half.

I'm thinking Boeing might have been wise to give air-gigantism a wide berth, so to speak.

Posted by: Andrew X at June 1, 2005 12:57 PM

I'll wait a few years and see if it crashes before considering it. Of course, I said the same thing about the Concorde, and a few years stretched into 20 and I still didn't desire to ride one.

Posted by: pj at June 1, 2005 1:23 PM

Boeing cleverly suckered Airbus into committing to build this plane, and were delighted when they did. It's a commercial disaster.

It's only because the EU has just made it clear that they will give Airbus both the money they needed to build this and the money they now need to build a copy of Boeing's new plane that the US is referring the airline subsidy issue to the WTO.

Posted by: ZF at June 1, 2005 1:36 PM

I just watched "The Aviator." It could be that the A380 will turn out to be Aribus's Spruce Goose.

Posted by: Ed Bush at June 1, 2005 1:44 PM

"Let us avoid snarkiness as a matter of course. It feels good but accomplishes little."

Then why are posting here?

Posted by: Robert Schwartz at June 1, 2005 5:09 PM

And the Euro's say that Americans are fat. That fat A380 has NO SOUL. I like to look at the sexy 747-400's or the sleek, but aggressive 757. America gave us those two birds, and Jazz music and baseball and New York City and New Orleans. What the hell has Europe done in the last 150 years? They gave us the Airbus A380. Yuck!

Posted by: Troy Thueson at June 1, 2005 6:43 PM

"I would like actually to fly on one just to check it out, prefarably one without all 800 seats. But let us keep a cold rational eye on this."

No seats on those Hadj specials. Squating room only.

Posted by: Robert Schwartz at June 1, 2005 6:45 PM

Back in the early days of the 747, the U.S. airlines weren't sure they could fill the planes to capacity -- American Airlines went as far as putting a piano bar in the rear section of some of their jets, though the oil price spike in 1973 following the OPEC embargo made that impractical due to the cost to fly the plane.

The A-380 faces the same problems, though like the 747 the time may come where it can fill all the available seats on a flight. But for domestic U.S. travel, it's hard to see how any airports outside of the Big 5 (JFK, LAX, D-FW, O'Haire and Hartsfield) can draw enough passengers who want to fly to the same place at the same time to justify purchasing the beheamoths.

Posted by: John at June 1, 2005 6:53 PM

Um, isn't a large percentage (50%?) of the A380 subcontracted out to US companies?

Posted by: mike beversluis at June 1, 2005 8:42 PM

So the right wing will stay attached?

Posted by: at June 1, 2005 8:48 PM

Plenty of people trust their lives on the A-320, a very nice flying airplane.

The autoflight system can be a psycho-bi**h from h**l, though.

Posted by: Jeff Guinn at June 1, 2005 8:56 PM

Dumb idea for many of the reasons mentioned above. The Edsel of the airframes.

Bin Laden will be disappointed about the delay.

Posted by: Genecis at June 2, 2005 10:07 AM
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