June 22, 2005

WHAT ABOUT BUSHHITLER?:

Kanan Makiya (Open Source, June 22nd, 2005)

Not sure if this interview is available on-line--the website stinks--but it was just hilarious listening to the host and every casller tell Mr. Makiya that he had to be wrong about his own country of Iraq because George Bush can't be right.

MORE:
Iraq Appeals for Help to Build a Democracy Amid an Insurgency: Interim leaders set out their political and economic development goals at aid conference. (Tyler Marshall, June 23, 2005, LA Times)

Leaders of Iraq's transitional government appealed to a gathering of more than 80 nations and international organizations Wednesday for help to build a democratic state and defeat the virulent insurgency gripping the country.

Iraqi Prime Minister Ibrahim Jafari described battling the insurgency as "a struggle between the forces of good and evil."

"We must stand together against terrorism," Jafari told delegates to the session, which was co-sponsored by the United States and the European Union.

After a day of hearing Iraqi leaders set out their political and economic development goals, United Nations Secretary-General Kofi Annan said: "Today, Iraq and the international community have turned a page together. We've promised each other we will be full partners in supporting Iraq."


The War is Over, and We Won (Karl Zinsmeister, July 2005, American Enterprise)
Your editor returned to Iraq in April and May of 2005 for another embedded period of reporting. I could immediately see improvements compared to my earlier extended tours during 2003 and 2004. The Iraqi security forces, for example, are vastly more competent, and in some cases quite inspiring. Baghdad is now choked with traffic. Cell phones have spread like wildfire. And satellite TV dishes sprout from even the most humble mud hovels in the countryside.

Many of the soldiers I spent time with during this spring had also been deployed during the initial invasion back in 2003. Almost universally they talked to me about how much change they could see in the country. They noted progress in the attitudes of the people, in the condition of important infrastructure, in security.

I observed many examples of this myself. Take the two very different Baghdad neighborhoods of Haifa Street and Sadr City. The first is an upper-end commercial district in the heart of downtown. The second is one of Baghdad’s worst slums, on the city’s north edge.

I spent lots of time walking both neighborhoods this spring—something that would not have been possible a year earlier, when both were active war zones, where tanks poured shells into buildings on a regular basis. Today, the primary work of our soldiers in each area is rebuilding sewers, paving roads, getting buildings repaired and secured, supplying schools and hospitals, getting trash picked up, managing traffic, and encouraging honest local governance.

What the establishment media covering Iraq have utterly failed to make clear today is this central reality: With the exception of periodic flare-ups in isolated corners, our struggle in Iraq as warfare is over. Egregious acts of terror will continue—in Iraq as in many other parts of the world. But there is now no chance whatever of the U.S. losing this critical guerilla war.

Posted by Orrin Judd at June 22, 2005 9:04 PM
Comments

Will you just listen to this jerk Christopher Lydon:

Kanan Makiya was disappointed and upset as he left the studio that the program and the calls slipped into a rancorous old rut about Bush’s war. He shouldn’t have been surprised: the rancor is part of the price of a reckless adventure that had no American or international consensus behind it. But now events march ahead, and our conversation has to catch up with them. My friend Kanan sounds like a propagandist when he talks the “Morning in the Middle East” line. Yet his contrarian courage and his heart always move me and leave me puzzling.

Does this station have any affiliation with NPR? It wouldn't surprise me.

Posted by: Matt Murphy at June 22, 2005 10:27 PM

At the end Makiya asked him what he'd have done about Saddam.

"Not war."

So would you remove sanctions?

"no"

So you'd punish 25 million people for your own political agenda, just as you blame others for removing Saddam over their political agendas.

"I don't have a personal agenda, I just know war doesn't work."

Posted by: oj at June 22, 2005 10:38 PM

So he's a pacifist but he has no agenda?

This guy is too good to be true.

Posted by: Matt Murphy at June 22, 2005 10:55 PM

Excellent link, OJ!

Makiya maintains a remarkable composure in the face of infuriating and willful ignorance.

Posted by: H.D. Miller at June 22, 2005 10:59 PM

I hope someone was able to change the callers diapers.

Posted by: Josh at June 23, 2005 3:46 AM

"I just know that war doesn't work." This in light of the reality that war is the only thing that works.

Posted by: Lou Gots at June 23, 2005 10:27 AM

Mr. Gots:
"I just know that war doesn't work."
And yet these are the same people who will mock you for your faith.

Posted by: Governor Breck at June 23, 2005 11:51 AM

Wow. Just got around to hearing the interview. Funny to hear Mr. Lydon tell Makiya that he's deluded when he says his country is improving because "that's not what I read in the paper every day." He also tells Makiya that he's too smart a guy to make arguments that sound like Bush campaign speeches. I guess Mr. Lydon knows better because he reads newspapers.

Parroting a caller's line, he also asks Makiya to name one time democracy has ever been imposed by force. Remarkable.

The first caller and the last one were particularly hyperbolic -- the first guy kept going on about the inconsequential Downing Street memos (a writer in last week's Weekly Standard pointed out that their contents have been greatly mischaracterized) and the last guy was raving about the colonialist Zionist neocon conspiracy. When Lydon told him he would've done nothing about Saddam because war is never the answer, Makiya seemed to get a little pissed.

Makiya obviously understands that many people on the hard Left genuinely prefer Saddam Hussein to Bush, he's just too polite to say so explicitly.

Posted by: Matt Murphy at June 23, 2005 5:24 PM
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