May 24, 2005

MAYBE THEY COULD HAVE READ THE CONSTITUTION?:

Efforts of 2 Respected Elders Bring Senate Back From Brink (SHERYL GAY STOLBERG, 5/24/05, NY Times)

In the end, it was the language of the Constitution itself and two old bulls of the Senate - Robert C. Byrd and John W. Warner - that averted a grim showdown over federal judicial nominees that had threatened to wreak lasting damage on Capitol Hill.

After weeks of seemingly fruitless negotiations between the two sides, Mr. Byrd, 87, a West Virginia Democrat who has spent more than half a century in Congress, and Mr. Warner, 78, a Virginia Republican who regards himself as an "institutionalist," met privately twice on Thursday. They parsed the language of Alexander Hamilton's Federalist Paper No. 66 in an effort to divine what the founding fathers intended when they gave the Senate the power to advise and consent on nominees. After trading telephone calls over the weekend, they drafted three crucial paragraphs.

The agreement contends that the word "advice" in the paper "speaks to consultation between the Senate and the president with regard to the use of the president's power to make nominations." It goes on to state, "Such a return to the early practices of our government may well serve to reduce the rancor that unfortunately accompanies the advice and consent process in the Senate."

People on each side of the fight over President Bush's judicial nominees say those lofty principles, articulated by the Senate elders, were instrumental in bringing together 14 senators - 7 Democrats and 7 Republicans - to do what the chamber's leaders could not: draft a compromise.


While this is certainly the most ludicrous take possible on what they did last night it is precisely how the "moderates" like to think of themselves.

Meanwhile, read every word of Federalist 76 and you'll find nothing to support filibustering judicial appointments, Federalist No. 76: The Appointing Power of the Executive (Alexander Hamilton, April 1, 1788, New York Packet)

To the People of the State of New York:

THE President is ``to NOMINATE, and, by and with the advice and consent of the Senate, to appoint ambassadors, other public ministers and consuls, judges of the Supreme Court, and all other officers of the United States whose appointments are not otherwise provided for in the Constitution. But the Congress may by law vest the appointment of such inferior officers as they think proper, in the President alone, or in the courts of law, or in the heads of departments. The President shall have power to fill up ALL VACANCIES which may happen DURING THE RECESS OF THE SENATE, by granting commissions which shall EXPIRE at the end of their next session.''

It has been observed in a former paper, that ``the true test of a good government is its aptitude and tendency to produce a good administration.'' If the justness of this observation be admitted, the mode of appointing the officers of the United States contained in the foregoing clauses, must, when examined, be allowed to be entitled to particular commendation. It is not easy to conceive a plan better calculated than this to promote a judicious choice of men for filling the offices of the Union; and it will not need proof, that on this point must essentially depend the character of its administration.

It will be agreed on all hands, that the power of appointment, in ordinary cases, ought to be modified in one of three ways. It ought either to be vested in a single man, or in a SELECT assembly of a moderate number; or in a single man, with the concurrence of such an assembly. The exercise of it by the people at large will be readily admitted to be impracticable; as waiving every other consideration, it would leave them little time to do anything else. When, therefore, mention is made in the subsequent reasonings of an assembly or body of men, what is said must be understood to relate to a select body or assembly, of the description already given. The people collectively, from their number and from their dispersed situation, cannot be regulated in their movements by that systematic spirit of cabal and intrigue, which will be urged as the chief objections to reposing the power in question in a body of men.

Those who have themselves reflected upon the subject, or who have attended to the observations made in other parts of these papers, in relation to the appointment of the President, will, I presume, agree to the position, that there would always be great probability of having the place supplied by a man of abilities, at least respectable. Premising this, I proceed to lay it down as a rule, that one man of discernment is better fitted to analyze and estimate the peculiar qualities adapted to particular offices, than a body of men of equal or perhaps even of superior discernment.

The sole and undivided responsibility of one man will naturally beget a livelier sense of duty and a more exact regard to reputation. He will, on this account, feel himself under stronger obligations, and more interested to investigate with care the qualities requisite to the stations to be filled, and to prefer with impartiality the persons who may have the fairest pretensions to them. He will have FEWER personal attachments to gratify, than a body of men who may each be supposed to have an equal number; and will be so much the less liable to be misled by the sentiments of friendship and of affection. A single well-directed man, by a single understanding, cannot be distracted and warped by that diversity of views, feelings, and interests, which frequently distract and warp the resolutions of a collective body. There is nothing so apt to agitate the passions of mankind as personal considerations whether they relate to ourselves or to others, who are to be the objects of our choice or preference. Hence, in every exercise of the power of appointing to offices, by an assembly of men, we must expect to see a full display of all the private and party likings and dislikes, partialities and antipathies, attachments and animosities, which are felt by those who compose the assembly. The choice which may at any time happen to be made under such circumstances, will of course be the result either of a victory gained by one party over the other, or of a compromise between the parties. In either case, the intrinsic merit of the candidate will be too often out of sight. In the first, the qualifications best adapted to uniting the suffrages of the party, will be more considered than those which fit the person for the station. In the last, the coalition will commonly turn upon some interested equivalent: ``Give us the man we wish for this office, and you shall have the one you wish for that.'' This will be the usual condition of the bargain. And it will rarely happen that the advancement of the public service will be the primary object either of party victories or of party negotiations.

The truth of the principles here advanced seems to have been felt by the most intelligent of those who have found fault with the provision made, in this respect, by the convention. They contend that the President ought solely to have been authorized to make the appointments under the federal government. But it is easy to show, that every advantage to be expected from such an arrangement would, in substance, be derived from the power of NOMINATION, which is proposed to be conferred upon him; while several disadvantages which might attend the absolute power of appointment in the hands of that officer would be avoided. In the act of nomination, his judgment alone would be exercised; and as it would be his sole duty to point out the man who, with the approbation of the Senate, should fill an office, his responsibility would be as complete as if he were to make the final appointment. There can, in this view, be no difference others, who are to be the objects of our choice or preference. Hence, in every exercise of the power of appointing to offices, by an assembly of men, we must expect to see a full display of all the private and party likings and dislikes, partialities and antipathies, attachments and animosities, which are felt by those who compose the assembly. The choice which may at any time happen to be made under such circumstances, will of course be the result either of a victory gained by one party over the other, or of a compromise between the parties. In either case, the intrinsic merit of the candidate will be too often out of sight. In the first, the qualifications best adapted to uniting the suffrages of the party, will be more considered than those which fit the person for the station. In the last, the coalition will commonly turn upon some interested equivalent: ``Give us the man we wish for this office, and you shall have the one you wish for that.'' This will be the usual condition of the bargain. And it will rarely happen that the advancement of the public service will be the primary object either of party victories or of party negotiations.

The truth of the principles here advanced seems to have been felt by the most intelligent of those who have found fault with the provision made, in this respect, by the convention. They contend that the President ought solely to have been authorized to make the appointments under the federal government. But it is easy to show, that every advantage to be expected from such an arrangement would, in substance, be derived from the power of NOMINATION, which is proposed to be conferred upon him; while several disadvantages which might attend the absolute power of appointment in the hands of that officer would be avoided. In the act of nomination, his judgment alone would be exercised; and as it would be his sole duty to point out the man who, with the approbation of the Senate, should fill an office, his responsibility would be as complete as if he were to make the final appointment. There can, in this view, be no difference between nominating and appointing. The same motives which would influence a proper discharge of his duty in one case, would exist in the other. And as no man could be appointed but on his previous nomination, every man who might be appointed would be, in fact, his choice.

But might not his nomination be overruled? I grant it might, yet this could only be to make place for another nomination by himself. The person ultimately appointed must be the object of his preference, though perhaps not in the first degree. It is also not very probable that his nomination would often be overruled. The Senate could not be tempted, by the preference they might feel to another, to reject the one proposed; because they could not assure themselves, that the person they might wish would be brought forward by a second or by any subsequent nomination. They could not even be certain, that a future nomination would present a candidate in any degree more acceptable to them; and as their dissent might cast a kind of stigma upon the individual rejected, and might have the appearance of a reflection upon the judgment of the chief magistrate, it is not likely that their sanction would often be refused, where there were not special and strong reasons for the refusal.

To what purpose then require the co-operation of the Senate? I answer, that the necessity of their concurrence would have a powerful, though, in general, a silent operation. It would be an excellent check upon a spirit of favoritism in the President, and would tend greatly to prevent the appointment of unfit characters from State prejudice, from family connection, from personal attachment, or from a view to popularity. In addition to this, it would be an efficacious source of stability in the administration.

It will readily be comprehended, that a man who had himself the sole disposition of offices, would be governed much more by his private inclinations and interests, than when he was bound to submit the propriety of his choice to the discussion and determination of a different and independent body, and that body an entire branch of the legislature. The possibility of rejection would be a strong motive to care in proposing. The danger to his own reputation, and, in the case of an elective magistrate, to his political existence, from betraying a spirit of favoritism, or an unbecoming pursuit of popularity, to the observation of a body whose opinion would have great weight in forming that of the public, could not fail to operate as a barrier to the one and to the other. He would be both ashamed and afraid to bring forward, for the most distinguished or lucrative stations, candidates who had no other merit than that of coming from the same State to which he particularly belonged, or of being in some way or other personally allied to him, or of possessing the necessary insignificance and pliancy to render them the obsequious instruments of his pleasure.

Posted by Orrin Judd at May 24, 2005 12:40 PM
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The Federalist Papers. C'mon OJ you can't expect US Senators, or NY Times political reporters to have read such an antedeluvian document, can you?

I mean, the Fed Papers have been superceded by Rbt. Byrd's history of the Senate.

Posted by: Jim in Chicago at May 24, 2005 12:58 PM

As for Federalist 66, I have no idea what they're talking about. This is as close as Hamilton comes to addressing the issue, and he's making the opposite point:

It will be the office of the President to NOMINATE, and, with the advice and consent of the Senate, to APPOINT. There will, of course, be no exertion of CHOICE on the part of the Senate. They may defeat one choice of the Executive, and oblige him to make another; but they cannot themselves CHOOSE, they can only ratify or reject the choice of the President. They might even entertain a preference to some other person, at the very moment they were assenting to the one proposed, because there might be no positive ground of opposition to him; and they could not be sure, if they withheld their assent, that the subsequent nomination would fall upon their own favorite, or upon any other person in their estimation more meritorious than the one rejected. Thus it could hardly happen, that the majority of the Senate would feel any other complacency towards the object of an appointment than such as the appearances of merit might inspire, and the proofs of the want of it destroy.

Posted by: David Cohen at May 24, 2005 1:14 PM

Warner and Byrd meeting to "parse" the meaning in the Federalist Papers?

Now, there's some serious brain-power.

One's a senile old fool, and the other hasn't had a substantive thought since he was divorced by Liz Taylor.

One can only imagine how the conversation between them proceeded.

Posted by: H.D. Miller at May 24, 2005 1:20 PM

Opponents of the Deal appear to be terribly upset that there are some Senators who act like responsible adults.

I for one am glad to see that the center held. There is no rough beast slouching off the Bethlehem.

Unfortunately, the worst still appear to be filled with passionate intensity.

Posted by: daniel duffy at May 24, 2005 1:56 PM

Turning and turning in the widening gyre
The falcon cannot hear the falconer;
Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold;
Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,
The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
The best lack all convictions, while the worst
Are full of passionate intensity.


Surely some revelation is at hand;
Surely the Second Coming is at hand.
The Second Coming! Hardly are those words out
When a vast image out of Spiritus Mundi
Troubles my sight: somewhere in sands of the desert
A shape with lion body and the head of a man,
A gaze blank and pitiless as the sun,
Is moving its slow thighs, while all about it
Reel shadows of the indignant desert birds.
The darkness drops again; but now I know
That twenty centuries of stony sleep
Were vexed to nightmare by a rocking cradle,
And what rough beast, its hour come round at last,
Slouches towards Bethlehem to be born?

Posted by: David Cohen at May 24, 2005 2:35 PM

Hey don't drag Yeats into a political discussion!:

Politics

How can I, that girl standing there,
My attention fix
On Roman or on Russian
Or on Spanish politics?
Yet here's a travelled man that knows
What he talks about,
And there's a politician
That has read and thought,
And maybe what they say is true
Of war and war's alarms,
But O that I were young again
And held her in my arms!

Didn't Yeats advocate for a modern Irish monarchy or something anyway?

Posted by: Shelton at May 24, 2005 3:36 PM

This is one time I have to respectfully disagree with Orrin. I applaud the moderates who have forged an agreement, however temporary and ambiguous, that provides an alternative to the take no prisoners ideological warfare currently raging in the major media, the blogosphere, and in Congress. As I have argued in my posts on the subject, the formation of this moderate coalition raises the possibility of government action based in trust, mutual regard, and a humane ambiguity rather than in ideological rigor.

Also. Why refer to the Federalist Papers and not to other commentary on ratification? They represent only one set of interpretations and others are equally valid.

Posted by: D. B. Light at May 24, 2005 4:41 PM

LOL

Posted by: David Cohen at May 24, 2005 5:00 PM

D.B.:

When a Democrat offers a SS reform proposal we''ll talk.

Posted by: oj at May 24, 2005 5:14 PM

DBL -

I think Chamberlain had similar remarks.

Posted by: Shelton at May 24, 2005 5:30 PM

Alexander Hamilton was a smart guy, but I don't think he ever contemplated the possibility of a modern President:

The possibility of rejection would be a strong motive to care in proposing. The danger to his own reputation, and, in the case of an elective magistrate, to his political existence, from betraying a spirit of favoritism, or an unbecoming pursuit of popularity, to the observation of a body whose opinion would have great weight in forming that of the public, could not fail to operate as a barrier to the one and to the other. He would be both ashamed and afraid to bring forward, for the most distinguished or lucrative stations, candidates who had no other merit than that of coming from the same State to which he particularly belonged, or of being in some way or other personally allied to him, or of possessing the necessary insignificance and pliancy to render them the obsequious instruments of his pleasure.

"Obesequious instruments of his pleasure". My goodness, but Hamilton could turn a phrase.

Posted by: Steve at May 24, 2005 7:27 PM

"Thus it could hardly happen that a MAJORITY of the Senate..."

'Majority'; that's 51 Senators, isn't it?

The Constitution specifically omits a supermajority requirement for judges:

"He (the President) shall have Power, by and with the Advice and Consent of the Senate, to make Treaties, provided two thirds of the Senators present concur; and he shall nominate, and by and with the Advice and Consent of the Senate, shall appoint...Judges of the supreme Court, and all other Officers (lower court judges)..."

Treaties require Advice & consent.
Judges require Advice & consent.
Treaties require a super-majority.
Judges do not.

Therefore,
"Consent" for treaties= 2/3rds (67 votes)
"Consent" for judges=1/2 plus 1 (51 votes)

The Senate may no more insert a super-majority requirement for judges than they may remove the super-majority for treaties.

This is a domestic Yalta Agreement. Fortunately, it will be honored by the Democrats in the same way Stalin honored his agreements.

Posted by: Noel at May 24, 2005 7:45 PM

Shelton,

We are talking about inter-party rivalry here -- not opposing Hitler. The Democrats are not Nazis and McCain is not Chamberlain. A pluralist democracy such as ours cannot operate without respect for the institutions of the republic and for political opponents and a willingness to compromise -- the sort of things that the "Gang of Twelve, or Fourteen, or whatever" evinced, but which are sadly in short supply in the blogosphere.

Responding to other posts:

This is not Yalta nor is it Munich, Harry Reid is not Stalin, agreement on social security reform is not a prerequisite for anything [especially not for discussion] and Hamilton is only one voice in the debate over what the Constitution means, not to be privileged over those of others who participated in the ratification debate. Don't be limited just to the Federalist Papers -- check out Bernard Bailyn's "The Debate on the Constitution" [Library of America] for a broader set of writings.

Posted by: D. B. Light at May 24, 2005 9:14 PM

Great; the Sith lord himself;who broke four
filibuster in the 70s; including the crazy
leftist ambassador to Ambassador; who founded
one of the proto Move On think tank that provided Sen. Kerry's conspiracist staff; and the more acceptable of Nixon's former Navy Secretary
and one time Liz Taylor spouse

Posted by: narciso at May 24, 2005 11:03 PM

D. B. Light,

I didn't say Reid was Stalin. I meant that this was a sell-out. And Democrats will not honor even these favorable terms so I expect it to blow up soon.

Hamilton is not the only voice. But having written most of the Federalist Papers, the public arguments that secured adoption of the Constitution, we can surely give his views their just due.

The name of this post is 'Maybe They Could Have Read the Constitution?'. I've quoted from it (always Quote the Constitution when making a Constitutional argument!). I've not heard any refutation of my analysis. Do you have one?

Posted by: Noel at May 24, 2005 11:39 PM

Noel,

No, you did not specifically state that Harry Reid was Stalin, but you did invoke the name of the Soviet monster and of the Yalta accords when discussing the partisan bickering in the Senate. I would suggest that the references were, to say the least, inappropriate.

The text of the Constitution does not require, but neither does it prohibit, a supermajority vote on judicial appointments. Whether such a standard is to be held depends entirely on the rules the Senate imposes on itself.

Hamilton's understanding of what the Constitution means is a very restrictive one. Madison had a very different view, and has at least as strong a claim to understand the meaning of the document produced at Philadelphia. One aspect of Madison's thought that is sadly overlooked was his conviction that the meaning of the Constitution was to be found in the common sense of the people that emerged out of the ratification debates, not in the text of the document or in the views of the "founders." In other words -- when the people of the various states, through their state conventions, agreed to accept the Constitution, what did they think they were agreeing to?

Posted by: D. B. Light at May 25, 2005 1:26 PM

DB: Shouldn't this go somewhere? What did the ratifiers in the various states say about the "advice and consent" power, while debating about an appointed Senate? (Not that it won't be completely irrelevant, as Justice Scalia and I think.)

Posted by: David Cohen at May 25, 2005 1:48 PM

D.B.,

The Constitution requires a majority vote; that's the only intellectually honest way to read that sentence. By your lights, the Senate could impose a unanimous 100-vote supermajority requirement if they so wished.

If Madison wished that the meaning of the Constitution would not be drawn from its own words, well, he's certainly gotten his wish.

This is a little more than partisan bickering. Much of the judiciary is acting in seditious contempt of the Constitution; our right to self-government hangs in the balance.

If Yalta offends you so, try the Kansas-Nebraska Act.

Posted by: Noel at May 25, 2005 11:02 PM
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