April 9, 2005


Jeffords' Theory (John P. Gregg, 4/07/05, Valley News)

U.S. Sen. Jim Jeffords, the Vermont Independent, may face a clear field right now in a 2006 re-election bid, but his March 22 performance on Vermont Public Radio's Switchboard program raised a few eyebrows.

For starters, Jeffords, who opposes the war in Iraq, predicted the Bush administration would start a war in Iran to help elect a third member of the Bush clan to the White House.

“I think it was all done to get oil,” Jeffords said of invading Iraq. “And the loss of life that we had, and the cost of it, was to me just a re-election move, and they're going to try to live off it. Probably start another war, wouldn't be surprised, next year. Probably in Iran.”

“Do you think that's likely?” VPR host Bob Kinzel asked.

“I probably shouldn't even talk on it, I just feel so bitter about the thinking that's gone on behind them, and the reasons they go to war and went to war,” Jeffords replied. “But I feel very strongly that they are looking ahead, and that there will be an opportunity to go into Iran and try to get their son elected president. I don't know, but you do it each time they (are) going to have a new president. I’m very, very (Jeffords chuckles). Oh, well, I better be quiet.”

In an interview this week, Jeffords spokesman Erik Smulson didn't back away from his boss's comments (which can be heard at vpr.net) and noted that Florida Gov. Jeb Bush -- the brother of the sitting president and son of former President George H.W. Bush -- is considered a possible 2008 GOP candidate for president.

“Certainly, this is a theory that has been pretty well discussed in numerous circles, that Iran potentially will be the next battleground, and that Jeb Bush is certainly considered a possibility in '08,” Smulson said.

Given that Vermont is represented in Congress by Mr. Jeffords, Pat Leahy and Bernie Sanders it seems worth looking into the process for revoking statehood.

Posted by Orrin Judd at April 9, 2005 11:34 PM

East of the mountains back to NH, west back to NY?

Posted by: ghostcat at April 9, 2005 11:54 PM

Give it to Quebec when they declare independence next year, sort of like a house-warming present.

Posted by: Raoul Ortega at April 9, 2005 11:59 PM

Wasn't Vermont in effect an inderpendent country B4 it became the 14th state? Perhaps the subject should be re-examined.

Posted by: Dave W. at April 10, 2005 12:20 AM

Wasn't Vermont in effect an independent country B4 it became the 14th state? Perhaps the subject should be re-examined.

Posted by: Dave W. at April 10, 2005 12:21 AM

And like Quebec - if they were to leave - they will fall flat on their face. One winter with little snowfall and there goes their tourist-based economy.

Posted by: oswald booth czolgosz at April 10, 2005 12:24 AM

About 40 years ago, the socialist-anarchist and Hildebeest mentor, Saul Alinsky, proposed that lefties should move en masse to Vermont in order to dominate its politics. Many traitors, like Ben and Jerry, took up the call, and the result is Leaky Leahy, Jumpin Jim Jeffords and Bernie Sanders. Of the three, Sanders is probably the most sensible and he's a Socialist Party member.

Perhaps a little botulin toxin in the water supply would end the problem.

Posted by: bart at April 10, 2005 6:36 AM

This is what I said over at wizbangblog.com when this story was published Friday and most of the comments were of the same stripe as here. So I might as well repeat myself:

Christ, I don't know what's worse: having most of my elected representatives be of the Moonbat Party or having the rest of the country blithely assume that I'm everyone who lives in Vermont is a moonbat. The GOP in Vermont is slowly but surely making a comeback from the staggering hit it took during the hippie invasion of the 1970's. Part of that comeback is actually running realistic candidates for office (instead of insane transexuals and doddering old fools) and actually trying to win elections rather than just giving up. Most of this is done without any help from the national GOP who, like most of you, has written off Vermont as a lost cause. But the lesson that the Vermont GOP has been learning (even if it has to get beaten into their heads with a mallet) is that there are no lost causes and no state, county or district should just be ceded to the opposition. And there has been some success. For example, Vermont has its first Republican governor since Dickie Snelling took his final swan dive and the dark days of Howard the Terrible began. By the way, who's the governor of "Cow Hampshire?" Oh, that's right John Lynch, Demmycrat. As the Democrat party in Vermont gets ever more splintered and has to fight for a dwindling constituency with the really whacko Progressives and as the VT GOP regains its confidence and ability to campaign Vermont will move ever more to the right. No surrender!

Posted by: Governor Breck at April 10, 2005 7:55 AM

Are the Vermont Republicans real Republicans or are they just a bunch of small-town grandees, in-bred WASPs, trustfunder descendants of the Mayflower, and a few grifters who saw the GOP as an easier mark? IOW, are they real Republicans or is it like the NJ GOP?

Posted by: bart at April 10, 2005 8:36 AM

Probably a little of both, I'd expect. As Orrin says, "What do you want more, political power or ideological purity?" Millionaire Carpetbagger Jack McMullen falls under the "grifter" category, but he's an actual Republican and he walks the walk and talks the talk and right now I'd vote for Zombie Stalin over Leahy. If you start separating the "real" Republicans from the "fake" Republicans you might as well join the Progs and start fretting over who's goodthinkful enough to join the Inner Party.
All of the VT Republicans I know (including myself) have a kind of wild-eyed feverish devotion to the cause, but then again, I don't know any of the VT GOP higher-ups personally; just us low-level voters. Jim Douglas is perhaps a little too cuddly-wuddly for my taste, but he's in an unenviable position, given that he's the GOP governor of a wildly Liberal state so he really has to pick his political battles. It's not the kind of governor I would be, but I would make a pretty lousy governor. Given that the other choice in the last election was Peter Freaking Clavelle, I think Douglas is doing a pretty good job. Now we have to work on getting the House under GOP control and that's going to be a lot more difficult row to hoe.

Posted by: Governor Breck at April 10, 2005 9:19 AM

Speaking of the tourist-based economy, how about avoiding Vermont when making summer vacation and winter skiing plans?

Posted by: John J. Coupal at April 10, 2005 9:23 AM

It is not a matter of 'intellectual purity' but simply that there be some difference between the two parties, and that one on some level should believe in putting criminals behind bars, in reducing the size and scope of government and not treating the Treasury as one's private stash. In NJ, the elections are simply between which bunch of high-taxing, big-spending crooks you want in office, not whether there should be high-taxing, big-spending crooks in office, as that question has already been decided. In NJ, the term 'mob rule' has a different meaning from everywhere else.

In Monmouth County, where I lived for many years, much of the GOP apparat was arrested last month on corruption charges. It was like a Jeff Foxworthy routine with red sauce,'If your County Secretary of Transportation goes by the nickname "Joey Busses", he just might be a mobster.'

Posted by: bart at April 10, 2005 11:49 AM

John - Love your enemy! Do good to those who elect Leahy.

Posted by: pj at April 10, 2005 1:37 PM

Go for it. Don't forget not to come up here during leaf season.
The VT GOP has to play footsie with the Progs and Dems but things are slowly changing. What more can you ask for?

Posted by: Governor Breck at April 10, 2005 7:47 PM

what's the winter like in vt or nh ? this is a genuine question.

Posted by: cjm at April 10, 2005 10:41 PM

What you don't want is what happened in NJ where a State Supreme Court, all of whose justices were appointed by GOP governors and approved by GOP controlled State Senates, voted 9-0 for the Lautenberg for Torricelli switcheroo.

Posted by: bart at April 11, 2005 9:52 AM

Winters can be pretty brutal up here, especially if you're from a place like Arizona. I actually enjoy them quite a bit. I couldn't imagine living in a place where it's 70 degrees and sunny all the time. The worst part is mud season when all the snow melts and turns the back roads into car-eating quagmires. But if you're prepared winter is a blast.

Posted by: Governor Breck at April 11, 2005 10:14 AM