April 27, 2005
COME BACK, ALL IS FORGIVEN (via Jorge Curioso):
Pope in talks with rebel Anglicans (Christopher Morgan and John Follain, 4/24/05, Times of London)
THE new Pope has established links with a faction of discontented Anglican traditionalists seeking to form their own church affiliated to the Vatican.Benedict XVI, whose inaugural mass as Bishop of Rome today is expected to be attended by half a million people, has held meetings with representatives of the Traditional Anglican Communion (TAC), according to Archbishop John Hepworth, the group’s primate.
The TAC represents more than 400,000 Anglicans around the world who have either left their church or are protesting against its liberal policies. It is estimated that 400-500 Church of England parishes may support the group in the long term.
“We are looking at a church which would retain an Anglican liturgy, Anglican spirituality and a married clergy,” said Hepworth, a serving Anglican bishop in Adelaide, Australia. “We dream of this happening soon.” One such community exists in America but so far there are only 14 parishes.
Any hint of a pact between the TAC and Benedict — who has maintained his interest in the group over the past 10 years — would alarm Rowan Williams, the Archbishop of Canterbury, and undermine his efforts to maintain the unity of Anglicanism amid squabbles over whether to ordain female bishops or homosexual priests.
Whether it was a mistake in the first place or not, the break with Rome long since served its purpose. Posted by Orrin Judd at April 27, 2005 9:20 AM
All quite silly.
It was precisely the break with Rome that enabled the existence of the good 'ole USA (and a lot of other---good---things besides).
Of course, one can pretend otherwise....
Posted by: Barry Meislin at April 27, 2005 9:27 AMThat's how the Protestants wrote the history anyway.
Posted by: oj at April 27, 2005 9:31 AMOrrin, you really must write a book on history's greatest mistakes. I'd love to know what chapter one would be about.
Posted by: Peter B at April 27, 2005 9:41 AMYeah, we've largely defanged the Christian religion. Which is a very good thing. No more burning folks like Hus and Bruno at the stake.
Posted by: Hus at April 27, 2005 10:35 AMPeter B.,
Let's note that the text which oj reviews looks at well, England, which was never a center of the early reformation (unless you want to discuss the Lollards). Note that I read the book in graduate school. If oj is claiming that there wasn't genuine and "from the bottom" frustration in Germany then he's clueless. I suggest Diarmaid McCulloch's recent Reformation.
Posted by: Hus at April 27, 2005 10:58 AMoj,
Maybe you should read what I write; I used the term "If" for a reason after all. :)
Posted by: Hus at April 27, 2005 11:12 AMRe: England the early reformation - What about Wycliffe and Latimore?
Posted by: jim hamlen at April 27, 2005 12:27 PMThe Pope does keep bringing up this 500 year old bill for nail damage to a Church door. With interest and penalties, it comes to a tidy sum of money.
Posted by: David Cohen at April 27, 2005 3:45 PMRome can have the Anglicans and all the rest of the nominal Christian liberals if they can get them but, there will always be Protestants. The theological divide between Rome and those that believe what they read in scripture is too great to cross.
Posted by: NC3 at April 28, 2005 7:09 AMI listen to sermons on Calvary Satellite Network most every day. Those guys think the pope is an actual devil.
Can't see reconciliation any time soon.
Posted by: Harry Eagar at April 29, 2005 6:36 PMYes, but you see like Ray Charles.
Posted by: oj at April 29, 2005 8:02 PM