March 22, 2005

THUS THE FAIRER SEX:

Women pay painful price for equal military training (Michael Evans, 3/22/05, Times of London)

YOUNG female recruits to the Armed Forces are not tough enough to be treated on a par with their male colleagues, a report claimed yesterday.

Too many young women were being injured in training, the independent Adult Learning Inspectorate said, and called for a rethink of the “gender-free” policy. The previous “gender-fair” policy, which took account of the “weaker sex”, was reckoned to be contrary to equal opportunities legislation.

In a report that criticised much of the culture behind Armed Forces’ training, the inspectorate, which carried out checks on all the training establishments, said that the military’s interpretation was to treat everyone the same. In the case of female recruits, the gender-free approach had led to record levels of injuries.

It recommended reverting to gender-fair training.


So by "fair" they mean unequal?

Posted by Orrin Judd at March 22, 2005 12:00 AM
Comments

I wonder how many pounds the "independent Adult Learning Inspectorate" was paid to arrive at this obvious conclusion. I'm not sure which is the more frightening: that an 'Inspectorate' is governing the British military, or whether its premise begins by criticizing 'much of the culture behind Armed Forces training.'

Posted by: Fred Jacobsen (San Fran) at March 22, 2005 1:45 AM

All feminists have 2 theories. One is that women are identical to men and must be treated identically. The other is that women are the victims of men and must be given special deferential treatment. They believe both theories and use whichever one comes to hand as the need arises.

This something that no man could ever pull off with a straight face.

Posted by: Robert Schwartz at March 22, 2005 2:21 AM

This is something that no man could ever pull off with a straight face.

Patently untrue, and the examples are unfortunately legion. Perhaps you mean "no self-respecting man"?

But then, that would also go for "no self-respecting woman"; since this is not a gender issue (that is, the self-respecting part).

The curious thing (it seems to me) is how, so often, "empowerment" movements appear to make it a point to sacrifice self respect. Though it may be no paradox; since "self respect" and "group empowerment" may, in fact, be totally contradictory.

Though maybe I'm painting with too broad a brush.

Posted by: Barry Meislin at March 22, 2005 3:10 AM

Robert, I am a woman, and you are 100% correct. Feminists make all women seem ridiculous. I disavow them totally!

Posted by: Kay in CA at March 22, 2005 9:03 AM

I went through Marine Corps officer training in the early 70's. We had a B.A.M. outfit going through the program at they same time, and some lessons and exercises were joint, but most were not. All-in-all, it worked very well.

Number One Son did it with the Army about 5 years ago, and reported that it was a farce. The ladies simply can't keep up, and guys wound up carrying their packs on marches and such. Uni-sex training seems to be firmly rooted within the alternatives to military service, but the Marines are still doing things the right way--the old way.

Posted by: Lou Gots at March 22, 2005 10:26 AM

It is a very bad idea to change job requirements because you want 'gender equity', especially when matters of life and death are at stake.

Posted by: bart at March 22, 2005 10:33 AM

"It is a very bad idea to change job requirements because you want 'gender equity', especially when matters of life and death are at stake."

Unless, of course, your real desire is to see the effectiveness of the US military crippled.

Posted by: Robert Schwartz at March 22, 2005 11:08 AM

Has anyone asked Larry Summers what he thinks about this?

Posted by: Axel Kassel at March 22, 2005 11:44 AM

Robert,

One would think so, but then these same idiots cause Fire Departments to give up the strength requirements that existed for decades, even though a significant number of deaths of innocent people result from firemen no longer being strong enough to haul unconscious people out of burning buildings. While undoubtedly these loons do have allies among the Blame America First crowd, they are motivated by something akin to religious fanaticism. Regardless of all evidence, there is no difference between men and women and if people have to die unnecessarily in burning buildings because women firefighters can't get them out or people have to die in airplane crashes when women pilots aren't strong enough to stop a crash dive or women soldiers aren't strong enough to fend off the enemy in hand-to-hand combat, that is merely the price 'we' have to pay so that truth will win out.

Posted by: bart at March 22, 2005 12:06 PM

Forget Larry Summers - someone should interview Nancy Hopkins.

Posted by: ratbert at March 22, 2005 12:10 PM

One could extend those findings to qualifications to firepersons and police persons.

If I were a woman weighing 140 lb and in a burning building, I would not be encouraged seeing a 120 lb "fully qualified" female firefighter coming to rescue me.

Posted by: John J. Coupal at March 22, 2005 12:14 PM

Bart: I belive that their first desire is to cripple the US military. The deaths of a few innocent civilians in fires is a mere by-product of their real design.

Posted by: Robert Schwartz at March 22, 2005 12:47 PM

Collateral Damage. tha's the phrase I was trying to remember.

The deaths of a few innocent civilians in fires is merely collateral damage.

Posted by: Robert Schwartz at March 22, 2005 12:58 PM

Strange? They live in flammable buildings like the rest of us.

Posted by: bart at March 22, 2005 5:05 PM
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