March 12, 2005

LIVING AND DYING WITH THE CHOICES WE MAKE:

‘Gay marriage’ and homosexuality: some medical comments (JOHN SHEA, MD, JOHN WILSON, MD, et. al., February 2005, Lifesite)

The media portrays the homosexual lifestyle and relationships as happy, healthy and stable. However, the homosexual lifestyle is associated with a large number of very serious physical and emotional health consequences. Many 'committed' homosexual relationships only last a few years. This raises doubts as to whether children raised in same-sex households are being raised in a protective environment.

A. There are very high rates of sexual promiscuity among the homosexual population with short duration of even 'committed' relationships.

* A study of homosexual men shows that more than 75% of homosexual men admitted to having sex with more than 100 different males in their lifetime: approximately 15% claimed to have had 100-249 sex partners, 17% claimed 250-499, 15% claimed 500-999 and 28% claimed more than 1,000 lifetime sexual partners. (Bell AP, Weinberg MS. Homosexualities. New York 1978).

* Promiscuity among lesbian women is less extreme, but is still higher than among heterosexual women. Many 'lesbian' women also have sex with men. Lesbian women were more than 4 times as likely to have had more than 50 lifetime male partners than heterosexual women. (Fethers K et al. Sexually transmitted infections and risk behaviours in women who have sex with women. Sexually Transmitted Infections 2000; 76: 345-9.)

* Far higher rates of promiscuity are observed even within 'committed' gay relationships than in heterosexual marriage: In Holland, male homosexual relationships last, on average, 1.5 years, and gay men have an average of eight partners a year outside of their supposedly “committed” relationships. (Xiridou M, et al. The contribution of steady and casual partnerships to the incidence of HIV infection among homosexual men in Amsterdam. AIDS. 2003; 17: 1029-38.) Gay men have sex with someone other than their primary partner in 66% of relationships within the first year, rising to 90% of relationships after five years. (Harry J. Gay Couples. New York. 1984)

* In an online survey among nearly 8,000 homosexuals, 71% of same-sex relationships lasted less than eight years. Only 9% of all same-sex relationships lasted longer than 16 years. (2003-2004 Gay & Lesbian Consumer Online Census; www.glcensus.org)

* The high rates of promiscuity are not surprising: Gay authors admit that 'gay liberation was founded … on a sexual brotherhood of promiscuity.' (Rotello G. Sexual Ecology. New York 1998)

B. Among homosexuals, highly risky sexual practices such as anal sex are very common.

* The majority of homosexual men (60%) engage in anal sex, frequently without condom and even, if they know that they are HIV positive. (Mercer CH et al. Increasing prevalence of male homosexual partnerships and practices in Britain 1990-2000. AIDS. 2004; 18: 1453-8) As a result, a large number of diseases are associated with anal intercourse, many of which are rare or even unknown in the heterosexual population such as: anal cancer, Chlamydia trachomatis, Cryptosporidium, Giardia lamblia, Herpes simplex virus, HIV, Human papilloma virus, Isospora belli, Microsporidia, Gonorrhoea, Syphilis, Hepatitis B and C and others. (www.netdoctor.co.uk; www.gayhealthchannel.com;)

* There is a significant increase in the risk of contracting HIV when engaging in anal sex. Young homosexual men aged 15-22, who ever had anal sex had a fivefold increased risk of contracting HIV than those who never engaged in anal sex. (Valleroy L, et al. HIV prevalence and associated risks in young men who have sex with men. JAMA. 2000; 284: 198-204.)

* The term 'barebacking' refers to intentional unsafe anal sex. In a study of HIV-positive gay men, the majority of participants (84%) reported engaging in barebacking in the past three months, and 43% of the men reported recent bareback sex with a partner who most likely is not infected with HIV, therefore putting another man at risk of contracting HIV. (Halkitis PN. Intentional unsafe sex (barebacking) among HIV-positive gay men who seek sexual partners on the Internet. AIDS Care. 2003; 15: 367-78.)

* While many homosexuals are aware of HIV risk, a large number are unaware of the increased risk of contracting non-HIV STDs, many of which have serious complications or may not be curable. (K-Y lubricant and the National Lesbian and Gay Health Association survey)

* While 'always' condom use reduces the risk of contracting HIV by about 85%, Condoms, even when used 100% of the time, fail to give adequate levels of protection against many non-HIV STDs such as Syphilis, Gonorrhoea, Chlamydia, Herpes, Genital Warts and others. The only safe sex is, apart from abstinence, mutual monogamy with an uninfected partner. (Sex, Condoms, and STDs: What We Now Know. Medical Institute for Sexual Health. 2002)

C. Homosexuals have very high rates of sexually transmitted infections such as HIV which pose a major burden to the health service.

* Over 70% of all AIDS diagnoses in Canada in adults over the age of 15 up to June 2004 were in homosexual men (13,019 out of 19,238). 60% of all positive HIV tests are found in homosexual men. This contrasts with just over 15% of all positive HIV tests which are due to heterosexual contact. (Public Health Agency of Canada. HIV and AIDS in Canada. November 2004).

* The recently observed dramatic increases in syphilis in many large cities such as Los Angeles, San Francisco, but also in London and Manchester, UK are in the majority observed in homosexual men. (Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC). Trends in primary and secondary syphilis and HIV infections in men who have sex with men. MMWR 2004; 53: 575-8. and Nicoll A. Are trends in HIV, gonorrhoea, and syphilis worsening in western Europe? BMJ 2002; 324:1324-7.)

D. There are increased rates of mental ill health among the homosexual population compared to the general population. Many studies show much higher rates of psychiatric illness, such as depression, suicide attempts and drug abuse among homosexuals then among the general population. The homosexual lifestyle is associated with a shortened life expectancy of up to 20 years.

* In a New Zealand study, data were gathered on a range of psychiatric disorders among gay, lesbian, and bisexual young people. At the age of 21, homosexuals/bisexuals were at fourfold increased risks of major depression and conduct disorder, fivefold increased risk of nicotine dependence, twofold increased risk of other substance misuse or addiction and six times more likely to have attempted suicide. (Fergusson DM et al. Is sexual orientation related to mental health problems and suicidality in young people? Arch Gen Psychiatry. 1999; 56: 876-80.)

* In a recent US study of the mental health of homosexuals, it was found that gay/bisexual men had a more than 3-fold increased risk of major depression and a five-fold increased risk of panic disorder. They were three times as likely to rate their mental health as only 'fair' or 'poor' and to experience high levels of distress. Gay/bisexual women had a nearly four-fold increased risk of general anxiety disorder and both groups were more than three times as likely than the general population to require treatment in a mental health setting. (Cochran S. et al. Prevalence of mental disorders, psychological distress, and mental health services use among lesbian, gay, and bisexual adults in the United States. J Consult Clin Psychol. 2003; 71 :53-61.)

* It is claimed, that the high rates of mental illness among homosexuals are the result of 'homophobia'. However, even in the Netherlands, which has been far more tolerant to same-sex relationships and which has recently legalised same-sex marriages, high levels of psychiatric illness, including major depression, bipolar disorder ('manic depression'), agoraphobia, obsessive compulsive disorder and drug addiction are found. (Sandfort TG, et al. Same-sex sexual behavior and psychiatric disorders: findings from the Netherlands Mental Health Survey and Incidence Study (NEMESIS). Arch Gen Psychiatry. 2001; 58 :85-91.)

* Furthermore, if 'homophobia' and prejudices were the cause of the high rates of psychiatric disorders and suicide attempts among homosexuals, one would similarly expect to find higher rates of suicide attempts and suicide among ethnic minorities exposed to racism. However, this is not usually the case.

* In a Vancouver study, life expectancy at age 20 years for gay and bisexual men is 8 to 20 years less than for all men. If the same pattern of mortality were to continue, it is estimated that nearly half of gay and bisexual men currently aged 20 years will not reach their 65th birthday. (Hogg RS et al. Modelling the impact of HIV disease on mortality in gay and bisexual men. International Journal of Epidemiology.1997; 26:657-61)


Yeah, but other than that it's just a lifestyle choice, right?

Posted by Orrin Judd at March 12, 2005 4:25 PM
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Choice? I thought it was a genetically determined compulsion, resistance against which results naturally in unfulfilled, repressed unhappiness.

Posted by: Random Lawyer at March 12, 2005 6:02 PM

Like bungee jumping, skydiving, or going to the Tunbridge Fair.

Posted by: ghostcat at March 12, 2005 6:42 PM

Do you have any idea how professionaly and even personally dangerous it would be in many North American circles to express such views, whether supported by cold, objective, statistically-supported science or not?

Posted by: Peter B at March 12, 2005 7:06 PM

Lifestyle choice or not that data are staggering. I wonder after reading that if anyone's lifestyle will change? Probably not,eh?

Posted by: Tom Wall at March 12, 2005 7:43 PM

you have to figure that homosexuality involves lots of volatility, because it requires the human brain to form in a non-standard configuration. some mental aspects might be tweaked for the better, some for the worse. it does seem to cause a lot of unhappiness, even when the individual has achieved much success (think rosie o'donell).

Posted by: cjm at March 12, 2005 8:17 PM

15% of all positive HIV tests which are due to heterosexual contact.

This seems high and I would be surprised if the person initially infected didn't engage in one of the other high risk behaviors before spreading it through hetero sex.

Posted by: Pat H at March 12, 2005 8:43 PM

Face it, gay men behave like straight men would if straight women would co-operate. If a straight man could be screwing a new good-looking woment every second night do you think he'd settle down with one woman, marry, grow up?

No, he'd behave like a sixteen year old until the day he died. Gay men behave just like us, minus the civilising influence of women.

Posted by: Amos at March 12, 2005 10:09 PM

Tom:

The pathologies are the point of the behavior.

Posted by: oj at March 12, 2005 11:08 PM

Amos: If that were true than heterosexual men would have no problem with female promiscuity. Not very likely, is it.

Posted by: at March 13, 2005 1:59 AM

Amos: If that were true than heterosexual men would have no problem with female promiscuity. Not very likely, is it.

Posted by: Buttercup at March 13, 2005 2:00 AM

Amos -- comparing a good looking and willing woman to the nearest guy's rear end is disgusting.

I met my wife at 13 and we got married at 21. She has an aunt who is 104 and I fully expect to be married that long, seeing as my grandfather just had his 90th birthday.

I'd go for longevity over intensity any day.

Posted by: Randall Voth at March 13, 2005 4:50 AM

That is, of course, a great aunt. I tend not to differentiate between cousins, second cousins, etc, much to the chagrin of my wife's mother -- to whom everything is "relative".

Posted by: Randall Voth at March 13, 2005 4:52 AM

Buttercup:

Very good. I've think you have hit upon the reason why conservatives can be so clumsy when they try to defend traditional morality on purely pragmatic and social grounds. It starts off well-enough, but it never seems to add up completely.

I remember Alan Bloom suggesting that, originally, marriage was basically a deal where men got homecare and sex and women got support and protection. It sounds reasonable until you start to think hard and realize that there are a lot less troublesome and inexpensive ways for both to get that. Have mother and fathers pushed their sons towards marriage since time immemorial just so they would get lots of nooky and hot meals?

The other one that gets me is the shibboleth, often seen here, that people used to have lots of children so they would be cared for in old age. Have people who think that ever compared the financial circumstances of the childless middle-aged to those with lots of kids? Surely a first year economics student could demolish that in an hour.

All roads on this subject eventually lead back to right and wrong.

Posted by: Peter B at March 13, 2005 7:33 AM

Peter -- A 10 year old girl told me a few months back, while we were playing with her 1 year old sister, "You can never have enough babies."

Now, she is definitely a "right" in a world full of "wrongs", but I think her sentiments more than adequately explain it.

The fact is that "right" always costs more than it yields: the greatest love is giving up one's life for another. Conservatives who try to defend morality on pragmatic grounds are either not conservative or they don't understand morality.

Posted by: Randall Voth at March 13, 2005 11:11 AM

Buttercup;

I must disagree. What heterosexual male has a problem with the promiscuity of women that he is not in a relationship with?

More over, what of the stories posted here of degenerate teen promiscuity? Those are male fantasies as well and closely parallel the details here. It's just more "friends with benefits", cases where somehow the boys have convinced the girls to behave as the boys would like.

Posted by: Annoying Old Guy at March 13, 2005 12:53 PM

AOG:

"What heterosexual male has a problem with the promiscuity of women that he is not in a relationship with?"

And what do men frquently call such women?

Posted by: Peter B at March 13, 2005 1:09 PM

AOG:

All of us.

Posted by: oj at March 13, 2005 4:01 PM

AOG: I'd say men would generally have a problem with women's promiscuity prior to sex but usually not after (unless they develop a relation, than most men would not be happy with a promiscuous woman after sex, either). But there is not an infinite amount of virgins to satisfy Amos' every other night fantasy, so he'd have to get used to the idea of highly promiscous women (acting much as gay men) to fulfill the quota. Again, not very likely that many men could stomach that. And actually, I couldn't stomach that behaviour from myself, my mother, my sister or my daughter, either.

Of course, Amos' prerequisite that the women be good looking is probably more insight into his mind set than any comments from me could ever provide.

Posted by: Buttercup at March 13, 2005 5:41 PM

I guess that's why guys shun women like that, instead of seeking them out at, say bars or nightclubs. Not to mention the lack of derogatory terms for non-promiscuous women.

Posted by: Annoying Old Guy at March 13, 2005 7:40 PM

AOG:

How many guys do you know who wouldn't care if their sisters were promiscuous? How many young boys are untouched by their mother's promiscuity? How many decent men would be unmoved or uncaring if a co-worker or assistant they liked was in a cycle of bed-hopping? No, many don't shun women like that, they use them. "Having a problem with" is not synonomous with "avoiding at all costs".

Posted by: Peter B at March 13, 2005 9:28 PM
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