February 11, 2005

THE '08 PREVIEW:

Clinton thumps Pataki, edges Giuliani in reelect bid , Quinnipiac University Poll finds; New York voters Say 2 -1 she's honest (Quinnipiac University, Feb. 9, 2005)

Sen. Hillary Clinton gets an all-time high 65 - 27 percent approval rating from New York State voters, who say 64 - 30 percent that she is honest and trustworthy, according to a Quinnipiac University poll released today. Among Republicans, 38 percent say she is honest, along with 85 percent of Democrats and 55 percent of independent voters.

Judging Clinton on other character traits, New York voters say:

* 74 - 22 percent that she has strong leadership qualities;
* 65 - 30 percent that she cares about their needs and problems.

Looking at her 2006 reelection bid, Sen. Clinton tops Republican Gov. George Pataki 61 - 30 percent, and edges former New York City Mayor Rudolph Giuliani 50- 44 percent, the independent Quinnipiac University poll finds.

New York State voters split 46 - 48 percent on whether Clinton should run for President in 2008, but Democrats support a White House bid 67 - 27 percent.

"Remember when Sen. Hillary Clinton took office four years ago? Her husband had just pardoned Marc Rich and the Clintons were accused of looting White House furniture. Now? Two-thirds of New Yorkers say she's a good - and honest - Senator," said Maurice Carroll, director of the Quinnipiac University Polling Institute. "State Republican leaders want Mayor Giuliani to challenge Sen. Clinton next year, and that could be a close race. But Clinton would bury Gov. Pataki."


Mr. Giuliani has to beat her to be taken seriously as a possible presidential nominee, while if she beats him she likely chases almost everyone else out of the Democratic primaries in '08.

Posted by Orrin Judd at February 11, 2005 12:36 PM
Comments

here is an interesting hypothetical: it looks to me like billc is not long for this world, so if he passes before the 2008 election does that diminish hillary's appeal/chances ? my own view is that it would greatly reduce them.

Posted by: cjm at February 11, 2005 1:00 PM

You think so, too?

I think the heart attack took a lot more out of him than people thought.

But then, is he raised on the JFK pedestal?

And there would be no reason to keep his impeachment records sealed, then, would there?

Posted by: Sandy P at February 11, 2005 1:27 PM

The chances of getting honest records about Clinton's wrongdoings are about as likely as ever getting a complete record of what really happened when JFK was assasinated and what the degree of involvement of the Vatican was with the Holocaust.

A 6 point margin over Rudy in the Democrat-biased Quinnipiac Poll is not a comfortable margin for her. The fact that she is at 50 in a two-way run is even worse news. She will, it is my guess, refuse to run for re-election, and concentrate from 2006 forward on her putative coronation as Tsarina of America.

Posted by: Bart at February 11, 2005 3:12 PM

Her former finance manager (David Rosen) is under indictment. If he is convicted, her poll numbers are going to change.

Posted by: jim hamlen at February 11, 2005 4:08 PM

Of New York voters, 64% say she's honest and trustworthy? 65% say she cares about their problems?

Toke up, dudes.

Posted by: Matt Murphy at February 11, 2005 5:14 PM

It's New York, 'honest' and 'trustworthy' are relative terms.

Posted by: Bart at February 11, 2005 6:30 PM

Politically, the best thing that could happen to HRC would be Bill's demise.

The sympathy, oh, the sympathy!

The ice could melt.

Posted by: ratbert at February 11, 2005 11:11 PM
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