February 22, 2005
RIGHT THROUGH THE HEART OF THOSE RIGHTEOUS UPRIGHTS:
'This Crowd Uses Gays as the Enemy' (Ted Olsen, 02/22/2005, Weblog: Christianity Today)
[T]he tapes reveal a strong personal spirituality on Bush's part along with ambivalence toward religious political groups.When Wead warned Bush, "Power corrupts," Bush countered, "I have got a great wife. And I read the Bible daily. The Bible is pretty good about keeping your ego in check."
Bush was willing to meet with evangelical leaders privately, but was wary of public rallies with them. Kirkpatrick reports, "When he thought his aides had agreed to such a meeting, Mr. Bush complained to Karl Rove, his political strategist, 'What the hell is this about?'"
Once he did meet with the leaders, Bush kept to the basics: "As you said, there are some code words. There are some proper ways to say things, and some improper ways. … I am going to say that I've accepted Christ into my life. And that's a true statement."
Apparently one Christian leader that had some doubts—or at least was perceived to have doubts—about how much Bush believed those code words was Focus on the Family founder James Dobson, whom Bush went to visit in September 1998. Kirkpatrick reports:
"He said he would like to meet me, you know, he had heard some nice things, you know, well, 'I don't know if he is a true believer' kind of attitude," Mr. Bush said.
Mr. Bush said he intended to reassure Dr. Dobson of his opposition to abortion. Mr. Bush said he was concerned about rumors that Dr. Dobson had been telling others that the "Bushes weren't going to be involved in abortion," meaning that the Bush family preferred to avoid the issue rather than fight over it.
"I just don't believe I said that. Why would I have said that?" Mr. Bush told Mr. Wead with annoyance.
By the end of the primary, Mr. Bush alluded to Dr. Dobson's strong views on abortion again, apparently ruling out potential vice presidents including Gov. Tom Ridge of Pennsylvania and Gen. Colin L. Powell, who favored abortion rights. Picking any of them could turn conservative Christians away from the ticket, Mr. Bush said.
"They are not going to like it anyway, boy," Mr. Bush said. "Dobson made it clear."
If Bush still perceives Dobson as an unsatisfiable perennial critic, it may explain why a Bush aide recently told Time, "We respect him greatly, but [Dobson's] political influence is not everything people might think." (So far, there's no response from Focus.)
While Bush suggested that he was willing to fight on abortion, he seemed awfully reluctant on homosexuality:
"I think he wants me to attack homosexuals," Mr. Bush said after meeting James Robison, a prominent evangelical minister in Texas.
But Mr. Bush said he did not intend to change his position. He said he told Mr. Robison: "Look, James, I got to tell you two things right off the bat. One, I'm not going to kick gays, because I'm a sinner. How can I differentiate sin?"
Later, he read aloud an aide's report from a convention of the Christian Coalition, a conservative political group: "This crowd uses gays as the enemy. It's hard to distinguish between fear of the homosexual political agenda and fear of homosexuality, however."
"This is an issue I have been trying to downplay," Mr. Bush said. "I think it is bad for Republicans to be kicking gays."
Told that one conservative supporter was saying Mr. Bush had pledged not to hire gay people, Mr. Bush said sharply: "No, what I said was, I wouldn't fire gays."
As early as 1998, however, Mr. Bush had already identified one gay-rights issue where he found common ground with conservative Christians: same-sex marriage. "Gay marriage, I am against that. Special rights, I am against that," Mr. Bush told Mr. Wead.
The New York Daily News doesn't get it:
The disclosures could weaken support for Bush with his conservative base — and crack his renowned aura of predictability and discipline.
"It ought to be damaging," said Baruch College political scientist Doug Muzzio. "It's hypocritical to say one thing now but to have said other things … in the past."
A senior Democratic operative added, "Put aside the admission of drug use, his comments about gays are certainly not going to energize his base."
Really? Being against gay marriage and "special rights," but insisting, "I'm not going to kick gays, because I'm a sinner" sounds straight down the middle of the evangelical world to Weblog. Criticizing the Christian Coalition for "using gays as the enemy"? Preach it, brother, and we'll turn the pages. The only people who are going to be upset with these comments are those whom Bush might say, "They are not going to like it anyway, boy."
It's not as if the Daily News has its finger on the pulse of evangelical America, huh? Posted by Orrin Judd at February 22, 2005 4:51 PM
"Baruch College" prof and "senior Democratic operative"? How about comments from some, you know, Evangelicals? These guys should stick to discussions of where the best lox is located.
Posted by: Bob at February 22, 2005 5:07 PMThe report doesn't have a photograph. So, the News is automatically excluded from commenting on it.
Posted by: John J. Coupal at February 22, 2005 6:02 PM"It ought to be damaging," said Baruch College political scientist Doug Muzzio. "It's hypocritical to say one thing now but to have said other things … in the past."
This guy must have flunked out of Stupid School.
Posted by: Matt Murphy at February 22, 2005 7:23 PMIt's like they grabbed somebody at the nearest college and asked him the question. Baruch College, part of CUNY, is only 20 blocks from the Daily News HQ. That's not exactly hustling to get a story. Maybe Zuckerman is in financial trouble and if a reporter has to spend more than a subway token, he doesn't get reimbursed.
Muzzio says if you ever change your mind you're a hypocrite. Then, the taxpayers of the City and State of New York who pay for CUNY are being cheated of their dollars by this closed-minded moron. Matt, this goober didn't flunk out of stupid school, he was its valedictorian, the stupidest guy on campus.
Posted by: Bart at February 22, 2005 7:57 PMRemember, Bush wasn't opposed in his bid for re-election in Texas in 1998 in the Republican primary, when some of these tapes were recorded, but the candidates he supported down-ballot for the other statewide offices were, with the opposition coming from their right and in most cases from more fundamentalist candidates. So there was some dissatisfaction at that time over GWB not taking a harder line on his beliefs, even though all of Bush's candidates won and people who opposed them didn't desert Bush in the 2000 and 2004 presidential votes (though the 2006 state elections in Texas will probably re-open the rift somewhat, amid personal rivalries between some of those down-ballot candidates Bush helped pull into office in 1998, since the governor has gotten back in good standing with the religious right in the party, while his rivals -- the comptroller and the senior senator -- haven't).
As for the Daily News, the editorial staff were not happy campers during last year's election over Zuckerman's support of Bush over Kerry, so any stories like this one may be as much a shot at their own boss as it is at the president.
Posted by: John at February 22, 2005 8:54 PM