February 25, 2005

I'VE JUST FOUND ME A NEW BOX OF MATCHES (via Bryan Francoeur via Ed Driscoll

Posted by Orrin Judd at February 25, 2005 9:40 AM
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Now, start humming "The Imperial March."

Posted by: Mikey at February 25, 2005 9:58 AM

Hillary! eat your heart out.

Posted by: capt mike at February 25, 2005 10:40 AM

As Rita Hayworth eventually gave way to Raquel Welch in "Shawshank Redemption" it appears OJ has a new poster to replace Maggie Thatcher....

Posted by: Foos at February 25, 2005 10:42 AM

Foos:

Replace? With Photoshop you can have both! It's the transfer to black velvet that wreaks havoc.

Posted by: oj at February 25, 2005 10:45 AM

Am I the only man in America who thinks that the word condilicious deserves to be in the dictionary??

Posted by: cornetofhorse at February 25, 2005 11:13 AM

Try to picture the audience reaction if our first female Secretary of State had walked by wearing that same outfit...

Posted by: John at February 25, 2005 11:32 AM

John:

Please, please remember your manners.

I'm still eating lunch.

Posted by: Jeff Guinn at February 25, 2005 11:59 AM

Condi might edge out Evita in the pres election on style alone.

Who would want Mad Maddie when one could have Condi?

Posted by: Sandy P at February 25, 2005 1:06 PM

Well, the woman was hired mainly for her appearance, so she might as well make the most of it.

Posted by: Derek Copold at February 25, 2005 1:51 PM

Derek:

Geez, aren't you supposed to keep those hidden under your robe?

Posted by: oj at February 25, 2005 2:03 PM

Derek, entirely unfair.

I first fell for her when she was delivering analysis of the First Gulf War back in 90-91. She was and is lovely, yes, but bright...very much so. Her intellectual acumen is of the first order. I suppose that those on the left can disagree as to the merits of her views, but like a more debatable and much less sexy figure, President Nixon, she is no one's fool.

Posted by: cornetofhorse at February 25, 2005 2:05 PM

If you guys want to pretend she's the most qualified person for the job, by all means go ahead. The fact is, she's a specialist in a field that no longer exists, and when it did, she wasn't all that spectacular. Her most favorable points are her race and gender, and her willingness to flack for her husb--I mean the president.

Posted by: Derek Copold at February 25, 2005 2:15 PM

BTW, is she goosestepping in that picture? Or is she just offering the peasants her hand so that they may kiss it and receive her sacred blessing?

Posted by: Derek Copold at February 25, 2005 2:25 PM

I'm not sure we're quite ready for Pres. Hotti.

Posted by: NC3 at February 25, 2005 2:28 PM

Derek:

Yes, that's a qualification, no? Bush trusts her.

What kind of Pollyanish dreamworld do you live in where the most qualified person gets government jobs?

Posted by: oj at February 25, 2005 2:29 PM

"I first fell for her when she was delivering analysis of the First Gulf War back in 90-91"

So you are saying she is the one to blame for selling out the Shia when they rebeled against Saddam. Thanks for the info. I must say that when it come to foreign policy analysis, she's reasonably attractive.

Posted by: h-man at February 25, 2005 2:31 PM

Of course he trusts her. He owns her.

At any rate, there are lots of people whom he can "trust." What marks Ms. Rice out as particularly desirable is her race and gender, which can be used to cow anyone who dares criticize her, as OJ has stooped to doing here.

Posted by: Derek Copold at February 25, 2005 2:35 PM

"owns" Nice! You're just full of racist bile today, huh?

Posted by: oj at February 25, 2005 2:43 PM

No, Orrin that's not racist.

If I said she was his "chocolate delight every Friday night, his ebony to Laura's ivory," you might have something to go on there, hoss. But you don't.

You know, though, looking at the picture, you can actually hear the tune from Star Wars' "Imperial March" synch up with the sight.

Posted by: Derek Copold at February 25, 2005 2:48 PM

Hired because she's black... Bush "owns" her...

Posted by: oj at February 25, 2005 2:54 PM

LOL. Orrin, you're becoming a parody of yourself, and liberal PC artist, at that.

Bush owns quite a few people, of all colors. He's very open-minded when it comes to hiring sycophants.
Why Jeff Gannon is lovely specimen of white male from his menagerie.

Posted by: Derek Copold at February 25, 2005 3:00 PM

Derek, wasn't she the number two administrator (provost) at Stanford University?

At Stanford, the provost is in charge of both the budget and curriculum, overseeing $1.5 billion a year in spending, a faculty of 1,400 members and academic programs serving 14,000 students.

I'm sure that is job which needs very little qualification, intellect or skill. No?

Posted by: pchuck at February 25, 2005 3:03 PM

And why did they make her provost instead of having her concentrate on foreign policy?

At any rate, she's been generally viewed as an awful NS Advisor, worse even than Clinton's picks. Her shrieking about "mushroom clouds" from Iraq hardly inspires confidence in her ability to read the international scene.

Posted by: Derek Copold at February 25, 2005 3:12 PM

Why does he hire them but "own" her?

Are you saying Gannon was hired because he was gay, like Condo was because she's black?

Posted by: oj at February 25, 2005 3:12 PM

One does not necessarily exclude the other. Do you really think I'm using the word "own" in the sense of holding someone's papers?

Posted by: Derek Copold at February 25, 2005 3:16 PM

Derek:

she's been generally viewed as an awful NS Advisor

Demonstrably untrue. Viewed as awful, yes; generally viewed as awful, no.

Posted by: Mike Earl at February 25, 2005 3:17 PM

You're right, Mike. I should have excepted the partisans who scream bloody murder if anyone dares to suggest that the President doesn't excrete blocks of solid gold.

Posted by: Derek Copold at February 25, 2005 3:20 PM

h-man

yes, if you mean that ABC news, whom she was an analyst for at the time of GW1, faciltiated the betrayal of the uprisings against Saddam then yes, I guess, she bears a share of the responsibility.

Good God. The left has gone starkers.

Posted by: cornetofhorse at February 25, 2005 3:22 PM

Derek:

I think the term revealing.

Posted by: oj at February 25, 2005 3:22 PM

The mushroom clouds got the President leeway to take out Saddam. That's a good day's work.

Posted by: oj at February 25, 2005 3:23 PM

No, Orrin, I'm suggesting that Gannon was hired because he was a toady. That's the point. The same goes for Rice. He moved her ahead because she was a black and female toady. He wants to use these traits as a bludgeon against his Democratic opponents, who certainly deserve to be bludgeoned with this particular stick. They certainly don't mind using it when they have the whip handle (ooo, a potentially racist reference! Whips, Slavery! Quick, Orrin, jump up on a chair and scream, lest it bite you on the ankle!).

Posted by: Derek Copold at February 25, 2005 3:25 PM

Derek:

In other words, she's bad because everyone who agrees with you dislikes her as you do. Well, that settles it, then.

Posted by: Mike Earl at February 25, 2005 3:27 PM

"The mushroom clouds got the President leeway to take out Saddam. That's a good day's work."

No, Orrin, that's lying, and that lie cost 1,500 Americans their lives. It also cost several times that amount their arms, legs, eyes or ears. It's cost tens of thousand of Iraqis their lives, many more their limbs or loved ones, and the numbers continue to climb. And all we have to show for it is a bunch of purple-fingered Shiite fanatics electing an government full of Iranian allies and agents.

It's disgusting sight, made only more disgusting by the smug, self-righteous hypocrisy of people supporting it, who would have been screaming bloody murder if a Democrat had done this--as they did over Kosovo.

Posted by: Derek Copold at February 25, 2005 3:32 PM

No, Mike. No one outside of Bush's fanatic supporters has much good to say about Rice. She was expected to be a stellar performer as NSA, but she was anything but, as can be seen by her horrid performance before 9/11 and during the run-up to war with Iraq. She was either incompetent or mendacious, or possibly both.

Posted by: Derek Copold at February 25, 2005 3:35 PM

Derek:

It's a worthwhile lie and a demonstration of her effectiveness that she helped sell it. You may not like that, but it's why she's where she is far more than that she's a black woman.

There are no Shi'ites in Kosovo.

Posted by: oj at February 25, 2005 3:39 PM

Derek:

Sneaky reference to that nubian Solid Gold dancer?

Posted by: oj at February 25, 2005 3:40 PM

Derek: You're casting your pearls before swine. We're all mindless, conservative dupes here. If we can't recognize the obvious "Bush as Massa" scenario, how will we ever grasp the magnitude of the rest of your ultra-perceptive intellect? Just leave us to wallow in our ignorance. Your work is done here.

Posted by: John Resnick at February 25, 2005 3:42 PM

"No, Orrin, I'm suggesting that Gannon was hired because he was a toady. That's the point. The same goes for Rice."

Put that way, all of Bush's hires and close staff are "toadies". The man puts a premium on personal loyalty thus asking Rove to quit consulting other politicians and work exclusively for him.

Posted by: Ali Choudhury at February 25, 2005 3:44 PM

You may be dupes, John, but you're not conservative.

Posted by: Derek Copold at February 25, 2005 3:51 PM

Oink!

Posted by: John Resnick at February 25, 2005 3:54 PM

I agree, Ali.

Posted by: Derek Copold at February 25, 2005 3:59 PM

Derek:

That's precisely right. Who would conserve 70 years of Democratic rule in the US and centuries of tyranny in the Middle East? No decent person.

Posted by: oj at February 25, 2005 4:26 PM

"Who would conserve 70 years of Democratic rule in the US and centuries of tyranny in the Middle East?"
President Bush, obviously. He's been backing tyrants in Egypt, Uzbekistan, Pakistan, Yemen, Azerbaijan and Saudi Arabia ever since he took office. As for the U.S., his domestic program out-democrats any Democratic pretensions. He makes LBJ look like a miser.

Posted by: Derek Copold at February 25, 2005 4:31 PM

cornetofhorse

My apologies, I thought she worked for the National Security Council, during the 1st Bush Administration. I stand corrected.

Posted by: h-man at February 25, 2005 4:42 PM

LBJ wasn't a miser, he just didn't get the difference of ownership vs. dependency.

The Sauds just had the elections you thought they'd never have, the Pakistanis are developing an economy finally, and Egypt is on board the peace process with very little chance that Mubarak can finish this next term, let alone hand power to his kid.

Those of you who want stability at all cost are justifiably yelping, but no one's listening.

Posted by: oj at February 25, 2005 4:46 PM

What a jaw-dropping idea. That a president might select people for his administration who would be loyal to him and support his policies.

Of course! Every president should only appoint those who would try to thwart him at every turn! What is that fool Bush doing by asking for loyalty from his staff?

BTW, the caption on the photo should read "Darth Rice enters to the applause of Stormtroopers..." ;)

Posted by: Mikey at February 25, 2005 4:54 PM

As I said, the tune from the Imperial March seems to fit the photo, although you half-expect the woman to fly off like Neo, chanting, "There is no Laura. There is no Laura."

At any rate, Cabinet Advisors shouldn't be yes-men. In fact, that's the last kind of person you want in that position. Powell, for all his faults, was loyal, but he was also independent and could give the president news he might not have wanted to hear, not that it seems to have done any good.

Posted by: Derek Copold at February 25, 2005 5:00 PM

Cabinet officers work for the President--we don't have a Parliamentarty system.

Posted by: oj at February 25, 2005 5:24 PM

Who let Pat Buchanan in here?

Posted by: Timothy at February 25, 2005 6:30 PM

Has our Derek has lost his Dominos?

Posted by: ghostcat at February 25, 2005 6:39 PM

derek, derek, derek. why are leftists so often (always ?) onanists as well ? must be the narcissim "rubbing off" on the intellect. anyway, you are good for a laugh and that's worth something in this world. i am picturing a farah fawcett poster on your bedroom wall, with madeline albright's head taped on, maybe helen thomas.

Posted by: cjm at February 25, 2005 6:39 PM

Derek --

Name a secretary of state in the past 30 years who was the absolute best candidate possible for the job at the time (feel free to work your way back from Rice to Kissinger, who also had a bit of a "celebrity" cachet when he was given the job by a wounded Richard Nixson).

Posted by: John at February 25, 2005 6:48 PM

cjm:

He's a paleocon, not a liberal, though there's so little difference these days the mistake is understandable.

Posted by: oj at February 25, 2005 6:57 PM

So Bill Clinton should have hired Jesse Helms to be Sec. State, and Bob Barr to be Atty. General? Lots of provocative questions at those Cabinet meetings. Maybe Richard Nixon should have hired George McGovern to be Sec. Defense.

Good alternative history, eh?

Posted by: jim hamlen at February 25, 2005 9:19 PM

derek: in all seriousness, how much of your (remaining) time on this planet are you going to piss down the drain being angry ? why not try enjoying life a little, while you wait for the maximum leader to make himself known ?

Posted by: cjm at February 26, 2005 12:22 AM

all we have to show for it is a bunch of purple-fingered Shiite fanatics electing an government full of Iranian allies and agents.

OJ, it's times like these I'm glad you archive all comments so we can laugh at them years later.

Posted by: Matt Murphy at February 26, 2005 2:19 AM

It's really amazing. All of the president's advisors are yes-man because they advise and debate in private and support the decided upon policies in public.

To me that sounds like something that an honorable adult would do, what an actual advisor is for. If the policy is too far off for the advisor/cabinet officer to stomach, then he or she should resign. A good example of how this works is given in Arthur Bryant's history of WWII based on Field-Marshal Allenbrooke's diaries. The JCS meetings were incredibly contentious, with much shouting and ill-will, but when a decision was reached, both the British and the Americans pulled to achieve the goals together. Advise and dissent in private, support in public.

It's just the press hates this, because with people like that you get no leaks. Too freaking bad, this is grown-up time now.

Posted by: Mikey at February 26, 2005 10:14 AM

It's really amazing. All of the president's advisors are yes-man because they advise and debate in private and support the decided upon policies in public.

To me that sounds like something that an honorable adult would do, what an actual advisor is for. If the policy is too far off for the advisor/cabinet officer to stomach, then he or she should resign. A good example of how this works is given in Arthur Bryant's history of WWII based on Field-Marshal Allenbrooke's diaries. The JCS meetings were incredibly contentious, with much shouting and ill-will, but when a decision was reached, both the British and the Americans pulled to achieve the goals together. Advise and dissent in private, support in public.

It's just the press hates this, because with people like that you get no leaks. Too freaking bad, this is grown-up time now.

Posted by: Mikey at February 26, 2005 10:15 AM

oj and cjm,

The difference between a 'paleo-con' and the Extreme Left of the Democratic party is that the Extreme Left of the Democratic party takes the positions it does despite the fact that those policy formulations may result in the extermination of the Jews and the reduction of other minorities to servile status, the paleo-cons see those as the main reasons for those particular policy formulations.

Matt,

Forget about purple-fingered Shia fanatics, I'm still waiting for those pogroms in Eastern Europe that the MSM assured us would occur once the Soviet Empire collapsed and all those Nazi sympathizers were inevitably installed in command of the newly freed 'Captive Nations,' by their bestial citizenry now freed to act out their basest prejudices free of the benign control of the Soviets.

A statement like Derek's is so ignorant and mean-spirited, it makes your eyes water and your nose run just listening to it.

Posted by: Bart at February 26, 2005 11:27 AM

Bart:

You're dreaming if you think elite upper class Leftists don't klnow what their policies mean for Jews, the under class, etc.

Posted by: oj at February 26, 2005 12:00 PM

No, OJ.

Not unlike the Fabian Socialists of 1920s Britain, they've drunk the Kool-Aid. I don't think that Keynes and Forster and Maugham and Shaw and Woolf wanted the subject peoples of the colonies to suffer or the Jews of Europe to be exterminated. They just bought into a party line which turned out to be a disaster. But I don't think they were people of ill will.

I don't think that Eric Alterman, Nat Hentoff, Katrina VandenHeuvel, Rabbi Balfour Brickner, Rabbi Arthur Hertzberg, Victor Navasky, Tom Freidman etc want the extermination of the Jewish people, they've just bought into the leftist nostrums one would have thought discredited in the 80s. Their careers and self-definition are so bound up in those nostrums that they will contort the facts surrounding them in whatever shape fits their pre-existing theories. These are not people who believe in suicide. In fact, they couldn't even imagine a world that could even survive, deprived of the iridescence of their existence.

Maybe, some are hangers-on who hope for the best in an inevitably Judenrein Brave New World, not unlike the relationship Paul Gottfried, the disgusting Murray Rothbard or Eric Margolis have with the 'paleo-cons.'

Posted by: Bart at February 26, 2005 12:32 PM

awful NS Advisor, worse even than Clinton's picks.

Derek, you are not a serious person if you mean this. Clinton's pick for NSA would be Sandy Berger. Sandy Bergler was a no-talent hack. Remember that town-meeting in Ohio several years ago with Cohn, Berger and Albright?

Posted by: pchuck at February 26, 2005 3:17 PM

OJ:

In Bart's defense, Muggeridge thought the "liberal death wish" was an unconscious or at least subconscious impulse. He didn't think they knew what they were doing.

Posted by: Matt Murphy at February 26, 2005 8:13 PM

Matt:

He was a more decent man than I.

Posted by: oj at February 26, 2005 8:24 PM

That particular photo is one of series showing Condi raising her hand to wave to the crowd. It is indicative of the Post's condenscension that they chose to put a particularly patronizing picture (as Derek so ably pointed out earlier in the comments) on the cover, rather than the more usual hand-in-the-air version used in other media.

BTW, may I suggest "Long Cool Woman (in a black dress)" by The Hollies as the appropriate musical accompaniment for all you (lonely?) Condi worshippers.

Posted by: TimF at February 27, 2005 12:03 AM

i think there is merit to both bart's and oj's positions -- depends on which part of the elephant you are examining. there is no arguing that there is pure evil at the heart of every leftist movement, but there are also may weak and nominally "decent" people too. me, i despise the eloy and the morlocks in equal measure.

Posted by: cjm at February 27, 2005 12:10 AM
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