January 24, 2005


Biden Describes Gadhafi's Stated Motives (AP, Jan 19, 2005)

Why did Libyan leader Moammar Gadhafi suddenly decide to give up his doomsday weapons? Sen. Joseph Biden, D-Del., said Wednesday he posed that question to Gadhafi during a meeting in Tripoli last year. Biden described their discussion to Condoleezza Rice, President Bush's nominee to be secretary of state, at her Senate Foreign Relations confirmation hearing.

According to Biden, Gadhafi said he acted as he did because possession of nuclear weapons did the United States no good in Vietnam or Iraq.

Beyond that, Biden reported Gadhafi as saying, if he used nuclear weapons, "you'd blow me away," referring to the United States.

Gadhafi also said Libyan disarmament would enable his country to resume normal U.S. trade and economic ties, the senator said.

"I can have American oil companies in here pumping the oil out of the ground," Biden said he was told. The senator said Gadhafi said he prefers dealing with Americans as opposed to, say, the French.

"You make a deal with the French, they say 90-10 and they take 95. The Americans, you say 50-50, they only take 50," Gadhafi said, according to Biden.

Gadhafi was, Biden said, "the most candid guy I ever spoke with."

Afterwards, both checked to make sure they still had their watches and wallets.

Posted by Orrin Judd at January 24, 2005 12:36 PM

"You make a deal with the French, they say 90-10 and they take 95. The Americans, you say 50-50, they only take 50,"

The Frogs dishonnest? Sacre Blue!

Posted by: Robert Schwartz at January 24, 2005 1:52 PM

Obviously the liberal use of hair plugs does rot the brain.

Posted by: Bart at January 24, 2005 4:10 PM

Biden must be trying to out-dumb Christopher Dodd.

Imagine the conversations Biden, Dodd, Boxer, Kennedy, Dayton, Schumer, Kerry, Mikulski, et al. would have with Saddam Hussein.

Posted by: jim hamlen at January 24, 2005 4:56 PM

Probably not much better than the one Dole and Simpson had with Saddam prior to Gulf War I. 'Your problem is with the media not with the American people.'

The Senate Stupidity Caucus is a bi-partisan affair. (Dodd/Hagel, Biden/Warner, Boxer/Chafee)

Posted by: Bart at January 24, 2005 5:26 PM

You commenters are so harsh with the planets of the Senate. Remember, any one of these vacuities, with little exertion, could have described the ex-gangster as an agrarian reformer and urged us to emulate him.

Posted by: LUCIFEROUS at January 24, 2005 6:13 PM

The Col. has esentially become a neoconservative. See his observation (made during a speech) that:

"America is not only for the whites , but it is for all. Who is the America? The American is you, me and that. When we go to America we will become Americans and there is no a race or nationalism called America and the Americans are those Africans, Indians, Chinese, and Europeans and whoever goes to America will become American...American is for all of us and the whole world had made and created America. All the people all over the world had made America and it shall accordingly be for all of us. I will never feel ashamed when I claim for my right in America and it will not be strange when I raise my voice in America"

Such a statement demonstrates Gadafi shares the vision of America as a proposition nation with open borders that is also held by Bush, the editorial page of the Wall Street Journal, Tamar Jacoby, and others

Posted by: carter at January 24, 2005 7:02 PM

It was later discovered that Neil Kinnock had several days earlier described Gadhafi as "the most candid guy I ever spoke with."

Old habits die hard for Biden.

Posted by: Jim in Chicago at January 24, 2005 7:09 PM