January 12, 2005

COUNT...COUNT...COUNT...STOP!

The Do-Over Campaign: The Republicans are executing postelection strategy perfectly, and the Democrats and Gov. Christine Gregoire are failing to respond. (George Howland Jr., 1/12/05, Seattle Weekly)

Usually, an election ends when the votes are counted. This year, Washington Republicans want to try something different: toss out the 129-vote hand-recount victory of Democratic Gov. Christine Gregoire...

It can not have been possible to type that with a straight face.

Posted by Orrin Judd at January 12, 2005 4:35 PM
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Via Sound Politics:

Spokane station KHQ-TV commissioned a poll this week:

62% in the State of Washington say there should be a new election to re-vote on the governor's race ... and 36% statewide say there should not be a new election.

A re-vote is supported by 76% of Republicans and 64% of Independents. In Eastern Washington 59% of those polled back a re-vote, 61% in the Seattle area back a re-vote.
Democrats oppose a re-vote, but even among Democrats, it is close:45% support holding a new election, 52% say they oppose it.

Posted by: Sandy P at January 12, 2005 4:44 PM

Speaking of not being able to type with a straight-face, compare and contrast these two statements:

1. While the lawyers representing Republicans in the revote campaign are very careful to say they have no evidence of fraud, the GOP's political leaders haven't been playing it so safe.

2. The Democrats won the hand recount because they are better at finding votes—even after the ballots have been cast. The Dems aren't so particular about whether every little rule has been followed as long as they get those votes counted by the system.

So, the Republicans are irresponsibly crying "fraud" while the Dems are winning because they'll do what it takes to find the votes, regardless of whether they have to break the rules.

Posted by: David Cohen at January 12, 2005 6:11 PM

Regarding what David said, I feel the Democrats are actually doing the correct thing in an election this close. (Both strategically and not being fraudulent)

What you do is claim the vote for yourself and let a judge or Sec. of State overule you. What is the point acting like a potted plant with no interest in the outcome. Perhaps she did win. Best for Republicans to move on and try gain any PR advantage that they can from this defeat.

Posted by: h-man at January 12, 2005 6:30 PM

The thing I find most amusing about hand recounts is that people believe they are more accurate. In business school we learned that the best way to mess up a good inventory system is to hand count it. The margin of error goes up substantially and this is in an environment where nobobdy doing the counting has a vested interest in over or under counting. How much does the margin of error increase when the counters want a particular result?

Posted by: jeff at January 12, 2005 8:01 PM

Orrin: At the Seattle Weekly, or as we often say out here, the Seattle Weekly, it would be possible to type that with a straight face.

This is, after all, the publication that has twice linked George W. Bush to the anti-Christ. (I had to admire how they did it, since they have no religious beliefs to speak of. The first time they gave uncritical coverage to local nutty minister, and the second time they used a similar tactic.)

Posted by: Jim Miller at January 12, 2005 8:35 PM

Jim:

Come now, every nutter worth his salt knows Ronald (6) Wilson (6) Reagan (6) was the anti-Christ.

Posted by: oj at January 12, 2005 10:07 PM

oj:

When President Reagan moved to Bel Air, the street on which he lived (I won't name it) had a '666' address. Nancy had Los Angeles change the number.

Posted by: Fred Jacobsen (San Fran) at January 12, 2005 11:19 PM

You can change numbers--you can't stop Satan.

Posted by: oj at January 12, 2005 11:21 PM
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