November 12, 2004


Insurgents apparently turned on each other (UPI, 10/12/04)

U.S. forces fighting in Fallujah found the bodies of 20 foreign fighters Friday in the southern part of the city who had been killed execution-style.

The men were described as foot soldiers with Monotheism and Jihad, a guerrilla group headed by Jordanian Abu Musab al-Zarqawi that now calls itself al-Qaida in Iraq, the Washington Post reported Friday. [...]

Residents say Zarqawi's lieutenants ordered foreign fighters to man bunkers in two neighborhoods as other neighborhoods were to be defended by allied Muslim groups, the First Army of Mohammad and Ansar al-Sunna Army.

But residents said the U.S-led offensive opened strains between the local insurgents and the foreigners. When a senior Zarqawi commander was found dead of a bullet to the head during the battle, many interpreted his death as the result of an insurgent execution.

It is one of the delightful ironies of America in arms that in any given conflict we've engaged in over the last century our forces were the ones most reliably interested in the future of the country where the fighting took place.

Posted by Orrin Judd at November 12, 2004 8:53 AM

Slightly OT, but Slate has some dispatches from an embed with the Marines. They are well worth reading.

Posted by: Jeff Guinn at November 12, 2004 9:30 AM

...our forces were the ones most reliably interested in the future of the country where the fighting took place.

I don't think that you can really back that claim up. I doubt our forces in North Africa or New Guinea cared any more about the future of those countries than did the Germans of Japanese. It's probably not true of any number of interventions in Central America either.

Posted by: Brandon at November 12, 2004 10:50 AM


Of course it's true. We made El Salvador and Nicaragua democracies. And what do you think Hitler had in mind for Arabs if the Reich lasted a thousand years?

Posted by: oj at November 12, 2004 10:55 AM

This is indicative of mutinies and fragging among the Fallujan terrs.

That usually indicates real desperation.

Posted by: Ken at November 12, 2004 12:30 PM

Something for the Fallujah cannon fodder to consider: what if some of your "fighters" are really infiltrators from the U.S. Special Forces, the CIA, the Mossad, or their equivalents in Allawi's army? Your brave comrade Mahmoud over there in the foxhole next to yours could be a double agent. If he acts suspiciously, maybe you should shoot him first, before he shoots you.

Posted by: Mike Morley at November 12, 2004 12:53 PM


You're conflating caring about the form of government with caring about the future of the nation. Not everyone does that now, and they cetrainly didn't all do that then.

Posted by: Brandon at November 12, 2004 1:19 PM


Our foes were Marxists, they thought the form of government was the nation.

Posted by: oj at November 12, 2004 1:22 PM