November 6, 2004


Hillary: ready, set (Washington Whispers, 11/05/04, US News)

Friends of Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton tell us that the New York Democrat is set to begin the hard work of running for president in 2008. Associates say that she already has organized a team to target fundraising prospects, create voter lists, and draw up a campaign agenda. The presidential effort will run in tandem with Clinton's 2006 senatorial re-election bid.

If Rudy Guiliani announces for her seat she'll have to bow out, because she can't afford to lose to him.

Posted by Orrin Judd at November 6, 2004 7:09 PM

Guiliani needs to sucker her. Make no moves to run, support Lazio, Mills or some other no-hoper to go against her--and then file to run at the very last minute. It would be both brilliant and hilarious.

Posted by: Timothy at November 6, 2004 7:13 PM

Can Giuliani afford to win? How could he run for President immediately after running for the Senate? And 2008 is his only chance at the Presidency.

Posted by: pj at November 6, 2004 8:28 PM

PJ: Maybe Giuliani will realize that he doesn't have much hope of being nominated by Red America unless he turns right on social issues.

Posted by: Buttercup at November 6, 2004 8:48 PM

I don't see Guiliani successfully running for President. He is a gun grabber, and he just had a messy divorce. He also had cancer. Still, he's as good a candidate as can reasonably be elected to the Senate from NY.

He could be appointed under Bush to replace Ashcroft at Justice, or head the FBI.

Hillary's negatives are huge with the red staters. I don't know anyone who could bring them out more.

Posted by: Gideon at November 6, 2004 8:55 PM

Hillary would lose against a Hitler\Stalin ticket.

Posted by: M Ali Choudhury at November 6, 2004 9:04 PM


Although you were wrong in your prediction that Kerry would resign his Senate seat, and as wrong as I about the election outcome, I think you absolutely about your prescription (I'm not calling it a prediction) about Hillary bowing out for reelection. I'd go a step further, however, and say she should bail whether Rudy runs or not. Even if she wins, what good does another six months or so in the Senate do her (she'll start actively campaigning for President in the summer of 2007)? Better to sculpt her Senate record over the next eighteen months, then announce her candidacy for the presidency, accompanied by self-serving statements about how the good citizens of New York will need full-time representation beginning January 2007. This twin-announcement makes her the presumptive nominee, clearing the Democratic field (i.e. allowing her to suck every nickel from Democratic donor pockets from mid-2006 onward), and allows the media to treat her as a shadow government, broadcasting her every utterance as that from the President-elect.

Posted by: Fred Jacobsen (San Fran) at November 6, 2004 9:08 PM

Giuliani is no gun-grabber.

If Hilary were to run against him, he chomp on her like Tony Siragusa(the Fox NFL sideline reporter and former NFL All-Pro nose tackle who weighs about 400 and has an Italian restaurant in NJ) eats cannolis. Thus, if there is even the hint that Rudy wants the Senate seat, and he'd have to be an idiot if he did, she'll defer from running for re-election. The same is true should Pataki run for the seat.

It's easy. She'll say that she has decided not to run because she intends to run for President and the time it takes to do that will detract from her responsibilities to the voters of NY.

Posted by: Bart at November 6, 2004 10:06 PM

Finally, the Pataki mention! George has to take on the challenge of slaying this dragon if he wants to create any national buzz for his Presidential candidacy.

Even if he defeats Hillary he is a no-hoper, but he won't know that...

Posted by: Tom Maguire at November 6, 2004 10:33 PM

Hillary for President...the perfect candidate, for the GOP. She will mobilize the right better than any socialist candidate in history. I'd far better run against her than someone like Evan Bayh.

Posted by: John Cunningham at November 7, 2004 1:37 AM

I'd say that over the next four years, we should all move to Iowa and register as Democrats to make sure that Hill gets the nomination, but Iowa took such good care of us this year that I don't think we need to.

Posted by: David Cohen at November 7, 2004 8:41 AM

If Vilsack runs no one else will show up, just as when Harkin ran.

Posted by: oj at November 7, 2004 9:11 AM