November 6, 2004
JUST A LIFESTYLE CHOICE...:
Rare infection may be risk to gay men in US (Paul Simao, October 29 2004, IOL)
A rare sexually transmitted disease that is spreading among gay and bisexual men in Europe could be poised to surface in the United States, the US Centres for Disease Control (CDC) and Prevention said on Thursday.Posted by Orrin Judd at November 6, 2004 11:33 AMThe CDC, a federal agency that monitors epidemics and other health threats, urged doctors and clinics across the nation to be prepared to diagnose and treat gay and bisexual men infected with Lymphogranuloma venereum (LGV).
It issued the advice after receiving reports of recent outbreaks in the Netherlands. The northern European nation has uncovered 92 cases of LGV dating back to 2003. It typically sees fewer than five cases per year.
The infection is caused by specific strains of chlamydia, a sexually transmitted disease (STD), and usually marked by genital ulcers, swollen lymph glands and flu-like symptoms.
However most of the men recently infected in the Netherlands developed gastro-intestinal bleeding, inflammation of the rectum and colon and other problems not often associated with the infection or other sexually transmitted diseases.
"inflammation of the rectum and colon"
Isn't this a regular feature of being gay?
Posted by: Robert Duquette at November 6, 2004 1:38 PMThese things happen when you start, on a regular basis, using body parts in ways for which they { were never intended (creationist) | weren't evolved (Darwinist) } to be used .
Posted by: Raoul Ortega at November 6, 2004 7:36 PMI cannot comment on the substantive issues raised above--the revulsion and loathing are too strong.
And there is the gravemen of the homosexual culture war. They would prefer that we lose our sense that their practices are unclean abomination. It transpires that our ancient prejudices (not all prejudices are invidious) were correct all along.
Posted by: Lou Gots at November 6, 2004 11:46 PMLou:
God made them that way. The prejudice is that He didn't.
Posted by: Jeff Guinn at November 7, 2004 8:44 PMJeff: I didn't say the God didn't make them "that way;" I said that their practices were unclean abomination--the statements are not mutually exclusive. One who is tempermentally irascible is not entitled to murder, on the grounds that God made him "that way." .
Posted by: Lou Gots at November 8, 2004 4:44 PMLou:
Perhaps you should suggest to God he get his act together and stop making them that way, then.
Your heterosexuality is not a matter of choice. Neither is their homosexuality.
Unlike murder, sex has no inherent moral component, your appeals to yuckiness notwithstanding.
Posted by: Jeff Guinn at November 8, 2004 8:39 PMJeff:
Of course it does, that's why those who despise themselves choose the most transagressive forms of sex.
Posted by: oj at November 8, 2004 8:47 PMNone of the gays I know despise themselves, despite mindless spouters of Leviticus best attempts to the contray.
Posted by: Jeff Guinn at November 9, 2004 8:56 PMThen why degrade themselves?
Posted by: oj at November 10, 2004 7:35 AMThey don't.
Degradation is a state of mind. They have different minds than you.
If you have a problem with that, you need to take it with your God. He made their minds that way.
Posted by: Jeff Guinn at November 10, 2004 8:21 PMAll minds are pretty much alike--barring genuine psychiatric disorders, which may prevail in some of these cases. They've the same free will as the rest of us and choose poorly. Your insistence that it's biological suggests nothing so much as your own belief that it's so degrading no one could ever choose it.
Posted by: oj at November 10, 2004 8:24 PMMale minds are like female minds?
Now there is something that just doesn't sound anything like right.
But you are right in one respect. You had no free will to choose your heterosexuality. They had the same free will as you.
None.
Posted by: Jeff Guinn at November 11, 2004 8:02 PMJeff:
In jail you and I would be buggering each other senseless--there;'s always a choice.
Posted by: oj at November 11, 2004 8:20 PMYou had no free will to choose your heterosexuality.
Posted by: Jeff Guinn at November 12, 2004 4:55 AMOf course I did--I choose not to be gay.
Posted by: oj at November 12, 2004 7:12 AMNo you didn't, because it wasn't within your power to choose homosexuality, any more than it was within your power to choose your gender, or height, or ...
Posted by: Jeff Guinn at November 12, 2004 9:12 AMBeen to prison, a boarding school, the British Navy or a fraternity?
Posted by: oj at November 12, 2004 9:26 AMOJ:
I was in a fraternity.
Also, I have spent considerable time in male-only environments--life during wartime is like that. One thing I particularly noticed then was how true "out of sight, out of mind" is.
So speak for yourself.
Posted by: Jeff Guinn at November 12, 2004 7:02 PMAh, close-minded about Greek love are we? Don't knock it until you try it.
Posted by: oj at November 12, 2004 7:09 PM