November 27, 2004
IF THEY HAD BROAD SUPPORT THEY'D BE LAW, NOT OPINION:
The Constitutional Doctrines that Won't Change, Even If the Supreme Court Does (VIKRAM AMAR AND ALAN BROWNSTEIN, Nov. 26, 2004, Find Law)
What factors make any constitutional doctrine permanent, or at least relatively stable, over time?Much of American constitutional law has ebbed and flowed over time along with the varied cultural and political tides that have influenced our society - and our judges. But some doctrinal principles seem more insulated from retrenchment than others, even today - when change is in the air. Why is that so?
Political Constituencies Will Cut Back on Rights That Never Serve Their Interests
We suggest that a given constitutional doctrine moves toward stability and permanence when it is recognized as valuable by a broad and politically diverse constituency.
To see why, it's important first to note that the rights set forth in our Bill of Rights -- and the structural arrangements mandated by the rest of the Constitution -- impose burdens on third parties and/or the general public. In this sense, constitutional principles can be seen as expensive political goods that carry costs with them. Once these costs are analyzed, it becomes clear that freedom really isn't free.
Why would citizens readily accept the cost of a given constitutional constraint over the long haul, if that constraint has little utility for them right now in the cases the courts are adjudicating? The answer, we think, is that they perceive that the guarantee will work to their benefit in other circumstances and will provide them needed protection against government interference at least some of the time. So even if they are not benefiting with regard to a specific application of constitutional law they see today, they - or their children - may benefit from this guarantee on other occasions.
On this logic, a guarantee will be especially tenuous - and vulnerable to Court reconsideration - if it protects decisions or conduct of only particular political constituencies, and provides no foreseeable benefit to other parts of the polity. Such a guarantee may be short-lived, for when the political winds change and groups that have been out of office regain political power, those groups may well challenge that guarantee. Why wouldn't they? It requires them to incur normative or material losses for which they receive nothing in return - now, or in the foreseeable future.
If you apply this sensible analysis it becomes apparent that those "rights" that have been created by the Court in direct contradiction of uniform state statutes are the least likely to endure: abortion, criminal protections, gay rights, etc. Posted by Orrin Judd at November 27, 2004 6:56 AM
"To see why, it's important first to note that the rights set forth in our Bill of Rights -- and the structural arrangements mandated by the rest of the Constitution -- impose burdens on third parties and/or the general public."
I don't know what Constitution he is reading. The Bill of Rights exclusively limits the powers of the Federal Government -- I fail to see how this burdens either third parties or the general public.
Posted by: jd watson at November 27, 2004 10:59 AMJD: I have a similar issue. When they write:
constitutional principles can be seen as expensive political goods that carry costs with them.
I am compelled to point out that there would be different, probably higher costs without these principles. For example, the Fourth Amendment imposes "costs" in the sense that the government must spend time and money getting search warrants, and no doubt the process enables some criminals to get away and reoffend, imposing more costs on society. But what would be the cost to society of a government that didn't need search warrants? I don't mean in freedom, I mean in time and money. Surely there would be a vast drain on resources and productivity if people had to deal with unrestrained government searches.
Posted by: PapayaSF at November 27, 2004 3:58 PMIf city/county/state/federal agents could search anywhere they wanted at any time, you don't think that might inhibit productivity? How about having sheriffs or DAs running for office searching the offices and homes of political opponents? Or maybe some dirty cops who decide they might benefit from freelance searches? The whole thing would be a corrupt mess, and I don't understand why a conservative wouldn't see that.
Posted by: PapayaSF at November 27, 2004 8:26 PMPapaya:
Not at all. Why would they search? How could they search? It's the kind of "problem" we like to pat ourselves on the back and say we solved with the Constitution but that just wasn't a problem and never would be in reality.
Posted by: oj at November 27, 2004 9:32 PMWarrantless searches never would be a problem "in reality"? They've been a tool of pretty much any tyrant you can name.
Posted by: PapayaSF at November 28, 2004 12:34 AMSo's murder--that was illegal even in the tyrannies.
Posted by: oj at November 28, 2004 12:38 AMI read the article. I thought it was junk. it was mostly a defense of some incoporation of the first amendment via the 14th doctrine, which I view as nonsense. the correct answer is that the states should regulate themselves under their own constitutions and the federal courts should limit themselves to the 14th amendment as it was written.
Posted by: Robert schwartz at November 28, 2004 11:53 PM