November 7, 2004

IF ONLY WE HAD TWO PARTIES:

Bush Prepares for Changes in Programs and Cabinet (RICHARD W. STEVENSON, 11/07/04, NY Times)

[T]he administration has yet to settle a number of issues about how to proceed with the most ambitious parts of Mr. Bush's domestic agenda - his call for a simpler tax code and his proposal to add personal investment accounts to Social Security.

A Republican adviser to the White House said there were two distinct strains of thinking within the administration about tax simplification.

One group, which the adviser said included Vice President Dick Cheney, supports throwing out the existing tax system and replacing it with a new one, built around the idea of exempting savings and investment from taxation and effectively levying a tax only on consumption. The new system, in this view, could be either a national sales tax or a single-rate flat income tax that as a practical matter only applies to income that people do not save or invest.

The other group, which the adviser said includes Treasury Secretary John Snow and Andrew H. Card Jr., the White House chief of staff, prefers an approach styled after what President Ronald Reagan and Congress did to reshape the tax code in 1986. They want to keep in place the progressive income tax structure, but to reduce rates and offset the foregone revenue by closing loopholes, cutting out special interest tax breaks and eliminating most deductions except those for home mortgage interest and charitable giving.

"That's the debate," said the adviser, who spoke on the condition of anonymity so he would not run afoul of the White House, which prefers to announce policy decisions only after internal differences have been ironed out.

There are similar differences within the administration on how to cover costs of shifting to a system in which workers can invest a part of their Social Security payroll taxes in private retirement accounts.

Creating the new system would divert some of the payroll tax revenue that now goes to paying benefits to current retirees into the private accounts, meaning the government would have to find money from somewhere else to pay the benefits. Estimates range up to $2 trillion over several decades.

Some officials said one camp within the administration was comfortable with borrowing the money, with the idea that the loan could be paid off over the long run by the savings to the system from increased returns from the investment accounts. But they said other officials, especially some political advisers to the White House, feared that any increase in the national debt or the budget deficit, even if advertised as a step toward improving the nation's fiscal condition in the long run, would run into strong opposition from budget conservatives on Capitol Hill.

Mr. Bush plans to name a bipartisan commission by the end of the year to explore the possibilities for changing the tax code, and is not likely to make any decisions until the commission reports sometime next year, administration officials said.

Some officials said any decisions about how to proceed on Social Security were sure to wait until the White House had had a chance to consult closely with members of both parties in Congress, where most Republicans support personal accounts but most Democrats oppose them.


The brain death of the Democratic Party is especially harmful on uber-issues like these, where they could actually sdetermine what type of reform happeneed if they weren't so reactionary that they'll just oppose everything. This is where Hillary Clinton could make herself not just the presumptive nominee but a potential president, by leading a group of Democrats who would help shape and pass major reforms.

Posted by Orrin Judd at November 7, 2004 9:17 AM
Comments

I'm listening to Barack Obama on Meet the Press right now. This is a Democrat with a clue. He is pro-reform on taxes and entitlements, willing to talk about reducing the number of abortions, and isn't raving about stolen votes. Once the deadwood dies off or is cleared away through elections, there could be new life in the Democratic party.

Spoke too soon, Maureen Dowd is on. She's talking about how Bush ran a Jihad.

Investing and saving are important, but I don't think that investment should have a priviledged tax status vis a vis labor. Wealthy people are captal rich, poor people are not and must rely on their labor to live. Capital and labor are both important economic inputs, and we should not disproportionately disincent one over the other in the tax code.

Taxing consumption is fine, but that is also an input into the economy. And poor people have no margin in their budget for savings, they necessarily must apply all of their income to consumption. The tax code must take this into account. The taxes need to be paid by those who can afford to pay them, but must be fairly flat across the income spectrum. The best way to address taxes is to lower spending.

Posted by: Robert Duquette at November 7, 2004 10:51 AM

Robert:

The point is to force labor to save so that they become capitalist.

Posted by: oj at November 7, 2004 10:59 AM

I've seen this Snow/Card movie before. Right after it passed in 1986, I said to my wife, "Now that we've lost all the deductions, they'll start creeping up the brackets, and in 10-15 years we'll be back to giving a large chunk of our income to the government."

The major problem with any progressive tax is the moral hazard. You've got a lot of people who pay little or no tax, but get to vote themselves goodies. Poor people pay sales tax, as do the rich. No reason why they shouldn't pay income tax, too. Evrybody needs a piece of the pie, and a bite of the bitters.

Posted by: ray at November 7, 2004 1:04 PM

Robert: there would also be an exemption for the first X amount of income.

Posted by: PapayaSF at November 7, 2004 2:53 PM
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