November 10, 2004

AND BY SEPARATION THEY MEAN STATISM:

Of God and Men: Unlike America's, Europe's political establishment is hostile to Christianity. (ROCCO BUTTIGLIONE, November 10, 2004, Wall Street Journal)

George W. Bush concluded his election victory speech with "God bless America." It's likely that in the European Parliament, the U.S. president would be considered unfit for his job on account of his religious beliefs. Even worse, for Europe's legislators, would be that he's not ashamed to express those beliefs so clearly and so publicly.

If you consider that Mr. Bush won re-election in part because of his firm stand on family values and other moral issues, it becomes apparent that Europe and United States are drifting apart not only on foreign policy but also on their vision of a democratic society and of the proper relationship between politics and ethics.

One of America's founding fathers, Alexander Hamilton, was convinced that politics needed values it could not produce itself and had to rely on other agencies (mainly the churches) to nurture the virtues civil life needs. The state could therefore not privilege any church in particular but had to maintain a positive attitude to religion in general.

Jean Jacques Rousseau thought, on the contrary, that the state needed a kind of civil religion of its own and the existing churches had to bow to this civil religion by incorporating its commandments in their theology. Many scholars see in this idea of Rousseau's the seminal principle of totalitarianism. The tradition of Rousseau and of the Jacobins has survived in Europe in less virulent forms than in the not too distant past, but it's still part of the European political and ideological landscape.


An amusing moment today, if you'll excuse the self-reference, at the weekly Elementary School Sing-along, in a town that probably voted 8-1 for Senator Kerry, they started with God Bless America. A simple illustration of how Red even most of our Blues are here in America.

Posted by Orrin Judd at November 10, 2004 7:41 PM
Comments

Being Christian doesn't make you "Red". Christianity doesn't force you into George Bush's worldview. Being "Blue" means you want the state to ameliorate income inequity, and you want America to get out of the superpower business by ceding our foreign policy to the UN. And you want women to have the choice of killing their unborn children, and childbearing to be disconnected from the institution of marriage. There are a whole lot of Christians who think that way.

Posted by: Robert Duquette at November 10, 2004 10:05 PM

Robert:

You can't be a Christian and support abortion. It's like being a vegetarian and eating meat.

Posted by: oj at November 10, 2004 11:28 PM

Orrin: get out now, before you wake up in a re-education camp. Eastern Ohio is drop-dead gorgeous...

Posted by: JimGooding at November 11, 2004 6:04 AM

"You can't be a Christian and support abortion. "

Sure you can. A Christian is someone who interprets Christ's words to justify their moral outlook. Interpretation is an artform.

Posted by: Robert Duquette at November 11, 2004 1:27 PM

Robert;

No, that's a relativist. Christianity comes with a book of rules.

Posted by: oj at November 11, 2004 2:33 PM

No, that's Subjective Absolutism. You believe that your own point of view is absolutely true. Thanks to "Every man a Priest", every man is his own Supreme Court interpreting the Christian rule book to his own heart's desire. You guys had rules that were enforced once, but it cramped your style, so you held a Reformation and now every Christian is a Subjective Absolutist. It combines the flexibility of relativism with that comforting sense of certainty you can only get from the One True Faith.

Posted by: Robert Duquette at November 13, 2004 6:15 AM

Robert:

Yes, that's why all Christianity is drifting back towards the Church. But the Bible does provide sufficient anchor that Relativism is generally avoided.

Posted by: oj at November 13, 2004 8:03 AM
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