October 6, 2004
TICK, TICK, TICK...
Battle will rage between young and old (The Australian, October 05, 2004)
On the idle hill of summer,
Sleepy with the flow of streams,
Far I hear the steady drummer
Drumming like a noise in dreams.
(A.E. Housman, A Shropshire Lad)
Housman was warning, in 1896, about the approaching Great War between nations. The steady drumbeat in this election campaign heralds a coming war between the generations.Our summer has been the extraordinary spell of economic growth, now entering its 14th year, and its harvest a run of rich budget surpluses. Some of these have been used wisely, to reduce public debt.
But not any more. This election has been a bidding war between John Howard and Mark Latham to see who can make the most irresponsible, open-ended spending commitments to an ageing population. In the early stages Howard was looking comfortably ahead, but Latham has moved to the front of the field with Medicare Gold.
The idea of generational warfare is not fanciful. Central bankers are not noted for flights of hyperbole and here is what Reserve Bank of Australia governor Ian Macfarlane had to say to the Pursuing Opportunity and Prosperity Conference, run by The Australian and the Melbourne Institute: "If we are not careful, there is a potential for conflict between generations. The young may resent the tax burden imposed on them to pay for the pensions and health expenditure of the old. This will particularly be the case if they see the old as owning most of the community's assets.
"At the same time, people -- retirees in particular -- are likely to be feeling less secure as they may be disappointed with the rates of return they are receiving on their savings. It seems to me that the community has not yet come to terms with the fact that nominal rates of return on financial and real assets are likely to be much lower over the coming decade or so than over the previous two decades."
The usual (and only) acceptably polite response to this looming problem is that immigration will save us all, but isn't there something a little sordid about an immigration policy designed to ensure there are lots of hard-working, dark-skinned types paying for the long and comfortable retirements of white folks?
Posted by Peter Burnet at October 6, 2004 6:03 AMBrothersjudd,
I think John Edwards has intercepted your login and password and is posting as you. What is sordid about coming to live and work in the United States? Even after taxes, the standard of living of any immigrant would surely be higher than from where they came. And really, can't it be said we all, except maybe the first wave of retirees and goverment pensioned PERS workers have gotten a bad deal when it comes to retirement? Lastly, if productivity continues at current pace, the standard of living can be maintained without really anybody working much so I donot think immigration policy is the "only" way out of retirement problem we face. The Chinese will be willing to work for us for close to free for many years to come.
Perry
Posted by: Perry at October 6, 2004 8:33 AMPeter:
What Perry said.
As you note, it is a bit sordid to explicitly rely on exploiting the wogs to pay for a long and luxurious retirement for an already privileged population; it brings to mind the Eloi and the Morlocks.
However, for a lot of immigrants, being allowed to become American citizens, (or at least being allowed to work in America), is like winning the lottery.
Everyone eventually benefits.
At the end of last year, and the beginning and middle of this one, there were a lot of illegal immigrants arrested and deported who had been working at Wal-Mart.
"TIME Europe" magazine interviewed one of these people, a man from Eastern Europe.
He arranged for the job with a labor broker before leaving Europe, and slept in the woods next to the store to save money. Although he doesn't say so, I imagine that he stole food from Wal-Mart whenever possible.
Even though he worked at Wal-Mart, a notoriously low-paying employer, for less than six months, and had to pay the labor broker a month's wages, and had some money stolen from him, this man still saved enough money to buy a house when he got back to Eastern Europe.
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