October 3, 2004


Interview with Dave Mustaine of Megadeth (Interviewed by Orpheus on 2004/07/20, Metal Temple)

This is another Megadeth “anti-system” album, right? About how you feel on what’s going on in the world. So, let’s have it in spoken words instead of lyrics – how do you feel about what went on in Iraq?

It needed to happen. The Americans went in there to liberate Iraq. A lot of people don’t think they were being liberated because France didn’t join in, Germany didn’t join in and neither did Russia. The reason they didn’t join in was because they had billions of dollars in stake with building the oil fields in the North of Iraq. The reason Russia, Germany and France supported us when we went into Afghanistan was because Afghanistan is a s[***]-hole. The people [of Afghanistan] I believe are probably very lovely people - I’ve never met any Afghanis but, you know, Russia wasn’t making billion dollar oil fields up there. Afghanistan was known for its poppy production which results in heroin. Afghanistan is renowned for its hashish. If Germany, France and Russia went into Iraq, public opinion would be different. People in the music business, in America, are talking bad about Bush…you know what? Shut the f[***] up! You’re a musician; you don’t know a thing about running a country! If there would have been a better man to run the States right now, we would have picked him, it’s a democratic process. There are a couple of guys who run for office, everybody picks him, he goes to the next level. Shut up, he’s the f[reak]ing president! There’s gonna be an election, if you don’t like him go for the other guy. Don’t sit back there and just piss and moan. I see all these guys like Michael Moore going off and I’m like “dude, you don’t have a f[reak]ing idea about what you’re talking about”.

You don’t like Michael Moore?

I have no idea who he is. Like “what are you doing?”, we’ve got young men and women over at Iraq by now sacrificing their lives every day because they love their country and their doing what their country told them to do. It’s not their fault, it’s not their fault we’re at war. And I don’t think that the spirit of the Greek people would wanna watch one American die needlessly. I don’t think that’s how you guys are over here.

Well, we don’t want to see anyone die actually.

Right. And I think that because there’s so much bullshit going on with self-advancement in America that people are trying to make what Bush is doing look bad. Now, am I a republican? No. Am I an American? Yeah. Do I consider myself to be patriotic? Yes. Do I think the war with Iraq was wrong? No! Saddam Hussein was a terrorist. He was a dictator and he tortured people.

Eleni: So are you going to vote for Bush in November?

I don’t know but I can tell you right now I’m not voting for Kerry.


NEVER TEAR US APART (via M Ali Choudhury):
Geldof: two parents are best: Split families damage society (John Elliott, Times of London)

BOB GELDOF, the pop star turned Third World campaigner, has made a passionate plea for children to be brought up by two parents, claiming the "because I'm worth it" society is creating a damaging number of single-parent families.

The former punk rocker has emerged as an unlikely champion of the family, arguing that marriage should be taken more seriously and greater value should be attached to domestic life.

Speaking in a television documentary, Geldof on Marriage, he says: "Marital breakdown costs the state about £15 billion a year and most of that is spent on
single-parent benefits.

"I know it's uncool, and I truly have no desire to cause upset or offence by saying this, but the truth of every study is clear: dual-parent upbringing produces healthier, better educated children. That's it."

One would take Mr. Geldof a bit more seriously in regard to parenting if he hadn't named his kids: Peaches, Pixie and Fifi Trixibelle. But his heart's in the right place and he speaks from tragic experience.

Posted by Orrin Judd at October 3, 2004 12:26 PM

Bob Geldof's right, but what can be done ?

Making it more difficult to divorce hurts battered spouses; making it more difficult to marry results in more common-law couples.

Possibly an educational/PR campaign, along the lines of the anti-drug/anti-smoking/use seatbelts campaigns, would be somewhat effective; all of those programmes had beneficial effects, at the margins.

Or, we could give married couples with minor kids a "marriage bonus" at tax time, a symbolic $ 500 might be enough to make the point.
People love "free" stuff, even if it's almost worthless.

I would think that Bob Geldof's wife is equally responsible for their childrens' names.

Posted by: Michael Herdegen at October 3, 2004 1:01 PM

My parents named me Beorn, and my siblings Siddhartha Darvin, Auralie Morningmeadow, Aeowyn Evenstar, Zenas Trahern, and Nolayan O'Dain, so I'm sympathetic to Pixie, Moon Unit, Dweezil, and Fifi Trixibelle.

Posted by: Michael-Gerrard Beorn Herdegen at October 3, 2004 1:07 PM


I always figured you commented under a pseudonym.

Posted by: Fred Jacobsen (San Fran) at October 3, 2004 2:42 PM

Michael brings up some good points regarding the difficulties in not making marriage and divorce too difficult (or too easy).

Our Baptist church requires 6 months of pre-marital counseling before they will marry you. (It can be a secular counselor.) When my future wife and I did it with our pastor I found it to be surprisingly sophisticated, having us take a Myers-Briggs test and a bunch of other psych tests. He said of the couples he's "flunked" and refused to marry, every single one that did so anyway ended up divorced within a few years.

Our church frowns upon divorce but it is reluctantly accepted for adultery (Mt 5:32), or the spouse acting in a demonstrably non-Christian manner such as committing physical/psychological abuse or using alcohol/drugs (2 Cor 6:14), or for abandonment/divorce by the other party (1 Cor 7:14-16). Chronic lack of showing love and devotion is also considered non-Christian.

Again much counseling is done. The goal to try to preserve a loving marriage, which is God's standard (Mark 10:4-12).

Posted by: Gideon at October 3, 2004 3:10 PM


What happened to Shagrat and Uglak?

Posted by: jim hamlen at October 3, 2004 3:16 PM


Michael was obvious, but how could a clever prosecuter like you miss the fact that Orrin was christened "Aquarius"?

Posted by: Peter B at October 3, 2004 8:06 PM

There are a few others like Mustaine. This guy, for example.

Posted by: Matt Murphy at October 3, 2004 9:40 PM

Umm, I though that Paula whatsername brought those kids into the marriage....

Posted by: John at October 4, 2004 4:09 PM