September 27, 2004

WE KNOW ABOUT FIRE, BUT MURDER IS SPEECH TOO? (via Flag of the World):

Free to Clone (BRIAN ALEXANDER, 9/26/04, NY Times Magazine)

This election year, the debate over cloning technology has become a circus -- and hardly anybody has noticed the gorilla hiding in the tent. Even while President Bush has endorsed throwing scientists in jail to stop ''reckless experiments'' (and has tried to muscle the U.N. into adopting a ban on all forms of cloning, even for research), it's just possible the First Amendment will protect researchers who want to perform cloning research.

Dr. Leon Kass, the chairman of the President's Council on Bioethics and a cloning foe, would like to keep that a secret. ''I don't want to encourage such thinking,'' he said during the council's July 24, 2003, session. But the notion that the First Amendment creates a ''right to research'' has been around for a long time, and Kass knows it.

In 1977, four eminent legal scholars -- Thomas Emerson, Jerome Barron, Walter Berns and Harold P. Green -- were asked to testify before the House Subcommittee on Science, Technology and Space. At the time, there was alarm in the country over recombinant DNA, or gene splicing. Some people feared clones, designer babies, a plague of superbacteria. The committee wanted to know if the federal government should, or could, restrict the science.

''Certainly the overwhelming tenor of the testimony was in favor of protecting it,'' Barron, who now teaches at George Washington University, recalls. ''I did say scientific research comes within the umbrella of the First Amendment, and I still feel that way.''

Berns, a conservative political scientist who is now at the American Enterprise Institute, was forced to agree. He didn't like this conclusion, because he feared the consequences of tinkering with nature, but even after consulting with Kass before his testimony, he told Congress that ''the First Amendment protected this kind of research.'' Today, he believes it protects cloning experiments as well.


Research may be protected in some general way by the First Amendment--certainly some aspects would--but the idea that just because you claim that you are engaged in science you have the absolute right to fiddle with the integrity of another person or even kill them is too bizarre to be countenanced. The exact argument that Mr. Alexander is making would protect those who conducted the Tuskeegee experiments and the eugenicists who applied Darwinism on innocent and helpless victims. We've run the experiment of giving science free reign over humans once, with disastrous results. There's no excuse for making the same mistake again.

Posted by Orrin Judd at September 27, 2004 8:14 PM
Comments

Research on cloning isn't going to be stopped by anyone.

For instance, California is planning to sell bonds to raise $ 6 billion for stem cell research.

Even if any one nation were able to abolish all public and private research into cloning, there is exactly ZERO chance that every nation and person in the world will stop.

The genie can't be put back into the bottle, Barbara Eden notwithstanding.

Biological research isn't like nuclear research, with the latter needing massive infrastructure and deep pockets. Research on cloning could be reasonably conducted by any average millionaire in an area not much larger than an Olympic-size swimming pool.

Posted by: Michael Herdegen at September 27, 2004 10:01 PM

Michael:

Let them debase their societies--most are pretty rotten already--and we';ll protect the quality of ours.

Posted by: oj at September 27, 2004 10:08 PM

oj:

Yes, it's the "ours" of society that I question.
I don't think it's nearly as inclusive as you'd like it to be.

You and the other courageous members of the Luddite Sword of God may refuse medical treatment based on the fruits of stem-cell research, but the vast majority of Americans will not, once those treatments reach American shores from whatever debased society that perfects them.

Thus, Americans will not only be debased in turn, but will also be hypocrites.

Posted by: Michael Herdegen at September 28, 2004 4:00 AM

There's nothing wrong with a hypocrisy that preserves your society and destroys its rivals.

Posted by: oj at September 28, 2004 7:33 AM

So, you don't have any real problem with fetal cell research, as long as some smelly foreigner kills the babies ?

You may want to further explore the morality of your position.

Posted by: Michael Herdegen at September 29, 2004 5:11 AM

Michael:

Of course it's immoral, but most of their societal mores are and, as you point out, "Research on cloning isn't going to be stopped by anyone.

But we'll use the results just as we use Nazi hypothermia test results.

Posted by: oj at September 29, 2004 8:29 AM
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