September 16, 2004


Clinton allies reject her funding bill (Geoff Earle. 9/16/04, The Hill)

Even though Sen. Hillary Clinton (D-N.Y.) has raised millions of dollars to aid her Democratic colleagues and is a de facto party leader in Congress, the possible presidential candidate in 2008 failed to persuade her colleagues this week to fork over homeland security money for her state.

Clinton made an impassioned plea in a closed Democratic Caucus meeting Tuesday for her amendment to direct that the Homeland Security Department follow a “threat-based” approach when allocating homeland-security money. Such an approach would send more aid to cities such as New York and Washington, where the terrorist threat is deemed greatest.

But Clinton was beaten back by senators fearful that their states would lose out under a system that guaranteed less money for each state, with more money based on such factors as population or level of threat.

Not a smart way to treat the next Minority Leader.

Posted by Orrin Judd at September 16, 2004 4:45 PM

A man sentenced to death by Judge Bean complained that he expected justice to be done in the court. Bean replied "Then you came to the wrong place." Change justice and court to senate and smart and you get it about right. Either way, they swing.

Posted by: luciferous at September 16, 2004 4:58 PM

Senator Clinton also has an excellent point. New York is a much more likely target for terrorist attacks than most other cities and states. It should get more Homeland Security funding.

Posted by: Brandon at September 16, 2004 5:37 PM

Didn't NY already get $20 billion?

Tell you what, Evita, start pushing to remove NYC's WWII rent control. NY won't need federal money.

Besides, while I don't think we can say we won their hearts and minds, I do think we can safely say the major operation of WWII is over.

Posted by: Sandy P at September 16, 2004 5:39 PM

That recent poll that said that a sizeable number of New Yorkers supported the Moore-ite view of 11 September as a Bush conspiracy was the signal that sympathy was no longer needed and the rest of the country could go back to loathing the city that gave us the Yankees and Yankee fans..

Posted by: Raoul Ortega at September 16, 2004 6:07 PM

Yankee fans or not, they are still Americans. They are in more danger than I am here in Phoenix, and they should get more attention to their defense.

Full disclosure: I don't hate the Yankees. They had the decency to not be able to hit in the 2001 Series.
Additional full disclosure: I consider the Red Sox to be more punchline than contender, and sympathize with any attempt to heal and comfort those unfortunate to support them.

Posted by: Brandon at September 16, 2004 7:12 PM

Majority leader yeah, but not the next one, someone will have to keep it warm between the time Daschle loses it (even if he wins his seat back, someone will have to be scapegoated for the debacle of this election) and the time Hillary loses the Presidential race to Rudy in '08. She won't take a leadership position in the Senate as long as she thinks she has a shot at getting the White House back.

Posted by: MarkD at September 16, 2004 8:07 PM


What choice does the party have once Daschle and Reid lose and Corzine wins the NJ gubernatorial?

Posted by: oj at September 16, 2004 8:11 PM

"They are Americans"

Then why do so many of them act like that's a bad thing? You don't see Seattle Leftists, for example, with the same sort of contempt for other parts of the country that you get from the Northeast centered around Manhattan. (The Island, not the town in Montana).

A little recognition that they need the rest of the country as much as they think we need them would go a long way.

Posted by: Raoul Ortega at September 16, 2004 8:55 PM

If you look at the list of campaign donations by zip code in the United States you see how heavily the Democrats' funding base is concentrated in certain areas.

New York of course is the No. 1 place for donations to Kerry, led by the Upper East Side 10021 zip code, but 10021 also happens to be the No. 1 place for donations to Republicans and George W. Bush, even with a 70-30 percent Kerry advantage. The neighboring 10022 zip is 2-1 for Kerry, but still gives Bush enough money to rank in the Top 10 among donor areas. So while there's no question there are a lot of clueless New Yorkers with a lot of money (along with those with less money who follow their lead), it's not completely off in fantasy land.

Posted by: John at September 16, 2004 11:30 PM

OJ - Daschle I think will lose but Reid will not since the GOP doesn't have a strong candidate. Dodd from CT is the best bet after Reid (I think Daschle won over Dodd by 1 vote when they elected Daschle). Clinton would be smart to not be minority leader in that it is easier to paint her as obstructionist (see Daschle)

Posted by: AWW at September 16, 2004 11:42 PM

Byron Dorgan will beat Dodd. Or Evan Bayh could step up to the plate, or perhaps even Feinstein.

Chris Dodd is a Kennedy dinosaur with too many problems to be minority leader. They might as well choose Byrd, but he fell out of favor back in 1982.

Posted by: jim hamlen at September 17, 2004 1:24 AM

It's simply practical to give NYC more prevention money, since all American taxpayers will be tapped to pay for NYC's clean-up if there's another successful terror attack there.
Also, NYC generates a huge amount of economic activity, so why take a chance on killing the Golden Goose ?

Posted by: Michael Herdegen at September 17, 2004 1:41 AM


Bayh has been ruled out of national leadership by the opposition of the abortion lobby.

Posted by: oj at September 17, 2004 9:07 AM


They don't need one.

Posted by: oj at September 17, 2004 9:12 AM


You're describing a small minority of native New Yorkers. The loud mouth, left winger type is, generally, either from out of town, on the public payroll or recently paroled.

Posted by: Tom C, Stamford,Ct. at September 17, 2004 12:58 PM