August 16, 2004

WHEN YES MEANS NO:

Within Hours, Chavez's Landslide Defeat Became Victory (Jack Sweeney, 8/16/04, NewsMax)

What a difference four hours can make in Venezuelan politics.

At 9 p.m. Sunday, exit polls conducted by the Democratic Coordinator (CD) showed President Hugo Chavez losing Venezuela´s first-ever presidential recall referendum by a lopsided margin of approximately 60 percent to 40 percent. Other exit polls showed Chavez losing as well.

However, at 3:47 a.m. Monday the National Electoral Council (CNE) officially pronounced Chavez the winner by an equally lopsided 58.25 percent to 41.74 percent, based on a count of 94.49 percent of the automated acts transmitted by some 9,000 voting centers to the CNE. According to the CNE´s official numbers, Chavez won 4.99 million votes, about 1.2 million votes more than he won in the 1998 presidential elections, when the abstention rate topped 56 percent.


Well, Democrats keep telling us how easy it is to mess with electronic voting--it looks like these guys just reversed the votes.

Posted by Orrin Judd at August 16, 2004 11:10 PM
Comments

Wasn't Jimmah responsible for monitoring that fiasco?

Posted by: Fred Jacobsen (San Fran) at August 17, 2004 12:02 AM

And Jimmah' has certified the winner, but then again, he never met a dictator he didn't like.

Posted by: Sandy P at August 17, 2004 1:24 AM

I've seen nothing about this except on the Internet. The major media has completely embargoed the story.

Professional courtesy among leftists, I suppose.

Posted by: BC Monkey at August 17, 2004 9:39 AM

Democrats keep telling us how easy it is to mess with electronic voting

Electronic voting isn't a bad idea - purely electronic tabulation of votes is a terrible idea, as any computer security pro will tell you. It's a dangerous solution to a misstated problem.

Posted by: mike earl at August 17, 2004 10:17 AM

I really don't understand the fascination with electronic voting. Here in Canada, we still have the paper and pencil ballots, and it would seem to me that the physical evidence of the vote that this produces is far more valuable than any benefit automation might have- especially in a nation where there is the likelyhood of vote fraud- which is to say, all of them at one time or another.

Posted by: BC Monkey at August 17, 2004 10:23 AM

Mark my words, the Democrats will complain about whichever method is used unless it produces the result they want, in which case they'll flout it as being beyond scrutiny. Well, that is until they lose, at which point they'll demand it be replaced with yet another system.

Posted by: MB at August 17, 2004 10:45 AM

"Whoever casts the votes decide nothing.
Whoever counts the votes decides everything."
-- Comrade Josef Stalin

Posted by: Ken at August 17, 2004 12:52 PM

Supposedly, the count matches the exit polls.

Hard to see how they would fix that.

On the other hand, I always liked paper ballots. If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

Posted by: Harry Eagar at August 17, 2004 2:27 PM

Harry:

But the results are the opposite of the exit polls, so it looks like they just reversed the tallies. That would have been easy.

Posted by: oj at August 17, 2004 4:17 PM

Not how I heard it. Got a reference?

Not that I care. People should be allowed to misgovern themselves.

Posted by: Harry Eagar at August 17, 2004 4:54 PM

Mr. Eager;

The benefit of modern electronic voting is that you can easily fix the counts after the fact. You don't have to do any stuffing before hand.

Posted by: Annoying Old Guy at August 17, 2004 5:22 PM

b-b-but the election has to be legitimate, Jimmy Carter himself said so, and no two bit dictator, ever pulled anything over on Jimmy Carter, right? I mean no dictator but the Ayatollah, right, I mean no dictator but the Ayatollah, and Noriega... err I mean no dictator but the Ayatollah, Noriega and Kim Jong Il.. errr nevermind.

Posted by: MarkD at August 17, 2004 8:49 PM

Harry:

All it takes is one algorithm. A $19 Casio calculator could be programmed to give you whatever result is desired (and it would look kosher).

I agree with you - I don't know why paper ballots aren't widely used. So the results don't come out until 1:00 AM? Big deal. At least there would be some incentive for people on the West Coast to keep voting.

Posted by: jim hamlen at August 17, 2004 9:05 PM
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