August 9, 2004
THEY PAY HIM?:
Sham Charges Against a War Hero: Calling John Kerry's military service into question is beyond the pale. (ALBERT R. HUNT, August 7, 2004, Wall Street Journal)
Suppose in the 1992 presidential election, after an unconfirmed rumor surfaced about an alleged affair then President Bush had years earlier, Clinton supporters decided to make marital fidelity a central issue.That would be almost as crazy as the current effort by some Bush backers to focus attention on John Kerry's Vietnam War record and subsequent protests.
There are so many holes in just these two sentences you can't read any further:
(1) Kerry's service in Vietnam isn't an unconfirmed rumor is it?
(2) The previous President Bush's affair was a campaign issue.
(3) Bill Clinton had committed adultery. George W. Bush didn't protest against his country.
(4) John Kerry made Vietnam the central issue of his campaign, not Republicans.
(5) What's crazy about running with an issue that your opponent is faltering under?
Posted by Orrin Judd at August 9, 2004 7:36 PMGee, Mr. Hunt, before or after Billary went on TV to discuss their marriage?
He's worried.
Posted by: Sandy P at August 9, 2004 8:04 PMSandy - good point. Hunt is pretty much just a Dem partisan so this might be a sign the Dems are worried.
Posted by: AWW at August 9, 2004 8:10 PMHe's worried indeed.
But I did not know Bush 41 was confirmed to have an affair. I vaguely recall that the alleged other woman was not alive in '92.
It was brought up as an issue though.
Posted by: JAB at August 9, 2004 8:39 PMAnd no Democrat has ever made a snarky remark about Eisenhower and Dresden.
Posted by: AC at August 9, 2004 9:03 PMAl Hunt has moved into Maureen Dowd / Eleanor Clift territory. I think the Democrats are worried, and the story on Fox tonight about Kerry's claims to be "near" Cambodia aren't going to help him.
Posted by: jim hamlen at August 9, 2004 9:09 PMNear? It was also near the time Nixon took office. Is this what he means by restoring honesty?
Posted by: oj at August 9, 2004 9:14 PMThat would be almost as crazy as the current effort by some Bush backers to focus attention on John Kerry's Vietnam War record and subsequent protests.
As if the Dems never said a word about GWB's Air National Guard service...
Posted by: Chris B at August 9, 2004 9:22 PMIt appeared twice, once as a rumor floated by Donna Brazile (yes that Donna Brazile) and briefly
shook up the markets; then as part of a purported
conversation with a conveniently dead witness, in
a scurrilous 'biography' of lobbyist Robert Gray,
called the Powerhouse. by Joseph Trento, who half
a decade later, was floating rumors about the
murder of Admiral Boorda
Hunt's beyond-the-pale counterattack may work for the situations where the eyewitness accounts are in dispute, even with the documentation by the swift boat vets. Not so Kerry's Cambodian claim, for which new examples seem to turn up every 12 hours or so.
Ask Hunt about that discrepency and he may adopt the explaination Maira Liason and Juan Williams trotted out on Fox News Monday evening -- the "I don't know where I am" gambit they were appearently hoping Kerry would use, which would involve the senator coming forth and saying he misjudged his own location by about 60 miles and was really still in Vietnam when he thought he was in Cambodia.
Since Kerry also mentioned in one of his recountings of the tale that he was being fired on by Cambodian soliders, one also has to assume Prince Sihanok's forces were as bad with a compass as the future nominee was. But it may be Kerry and his brain trust will decide to try and resolve the first contradiction for the media (to many in the press, any answer will do) and then worry about any new problems with the story later.
Posted by: John at August 9, 2004 11:00 PMIf memory serves, Hillary brought it up in a television interview.
Posted by: David Cohen at August 9, 2004 11:01 PMJohn:
No, even worse, he said the Vietnamese were firing at him, thinking he must be Cambodian.
Posted by: oj at August 9, 2004 11:09 PMWhy would anyone want Boorda dead ?
I didn't even understand why he killed himself. His "crime" wasn't that heinous, just embarrassing.
He's certainly not the first, nor the last, to self-aggrandize.
The funny thing is that Hunt (and we can assume he is taking instruction from DNC) seems to assume that this is comming from the brain of Karl Rove. My guess is that this is the settling of an old and festering grudge, which the Bush campaign cannot control. Its going to get uglier before the election is over. There are a lot of guys whose wounds have not healed and who are still pissed at John Kerry:
John Kerry brought it up. Viet Nam veterans are jumping all over it. What is it? It's something that's been in the craws of Viet Nam vets since 1971. It is the false testimony given by John Kerry when he told the lies that have contributed so much to the public's baby-killer perception of the Vietnam veteran.Finally, after thirty-three years, we have our chance to set the record straight--thousands of veterans and their supporters are going to demonstrate to the American people once and for all that John Kerry lied when he testified that Americans were committing murder, mayhem, torture, and rape in Viet Nam.
I think that by October this is going to be at full boil, and it clearly will not be a partisan thing.
Posted by: Robert Schwartz at August 10, 2004 12:30 AMThere's an interesting post at Roger L. Simon's place from a journo.
This thing has legs. Some reporters just might start sniffing around.
Posted by: Sandy P at August 10, 2004 4:14 AMSaw Lanny Davis on Hannity & Colmes last night, and got a real whiff of genuine panic coming off of him.
He said something like "Do you really want to open the issue of where George Bush wa during his time in the Guard?"
Huh?
Lanny, where ya been the last six months, in a cave? You wanna crack at that rotting horse carcas, be my guest.
But what I have yet to hear mentioned specifically in the Swift Boat issue is F-911. What exactly are the swifties doing in 30 seconds that Michael Moore is NOT doing in 90 minutes... OVERSEAS, I might add, and with giggling relish.
I been saying the Dems will rue the day they wrapped their arms around (as far as they could reach) that fat, arrogant, lying, treasonous scumbag. Now the piper starts to arrive.
Posted by: Andrew X at August 10, 2004 8:04 AMI was on guard duty at Marine Barracks 8th and I when Boorda committed suicide. One of our guard posts was at the Washington Navy Yard about 3 blocks away. It was the entrance of “Admiral’s Row”, a collection of base housing for Admirals including the CNO. While I was not on that particular post, I good friend of mine was. He said that Boorda drove to his house in his official car and about 20 minutes later Boorda’s driver ran up to him and said “The CNO has been shot.”
Our react team ran down to the Navy Yard and cleared the grounds. The only one there was a yard worker (gardener). Soon after eveyone (my guard chain of command, FBI, Washington Police, etc.) showed up and started their crime scene investegation. I was later told by my Sergeant of the Gurad that Boorda shot himself through the chest. So unless a gardener did him in Trento is full of crap.
Still weird that he would kill himself over improper medal wearing though.
Isn't the kind of person who would feel the need to fake medals exactly the kind who would cap himself?
Posted by: oj at August 10, 2004 9:49 AMAt the end of the Brit Hume Fox report last night, even Mara Liasson and Juan Williams eagerly said that Kerry should be investigated just as Bush was. They know the end is near. But not as 'near' as Cambodia.
It was disappointing to see USA Today (on Monday) repeat the lie that Lewis Letson was not responsible for treating Kerry's first wound. Any reporter who spent 15 minutes looking around would know what happened and why the medic signed the sheet.
Posted by: jim hamlen at August 10, 2004 10:04 AMRegarding the Admiral Boorda incident, shouldn't it be time for Congressman Lantos to visit John Kerry and suggest that he do the right thing.
Edwards can carry on by himself.
Posted by: h-man at August 10, 2004 10:44 AMI was in Cambodia in 1968. I played Little League Baseball there. Or maybe it was Virginia Beach. Anyway, it's seared -- seared in my memory.
Posted by: jefferson park at August 10, 2004 11:44 AMNext we'll be hearing Edwards defense of Kerry: "the leaves and brush were hanging over the riverbank, the water was brown and slow. I was getting closer and closer to the border....it was hotter and hotter....please stay with me here....it was...it was just awful....I couldn't breathe....not enough oxygen....my memory is failing....but I know I was there, in Cambodia"
Or something like that.
Posted by: jim hamlen at August 10, 2004 4:07 PM