August 9, 2004


What Would Ibn Khaldun Say? (Gerald A. Honigman, August 08, 2004, Arutz Sheva)

It was recently reported in the Kurdish media that Turkey's Prime Minister was visiting with Iran to suggest a regional alliance between the Syrians and themselves to prevent the emergence of an independent state in Iraqi Kurdistan.

Picture this, for one moment. Imagine that millions of Arabs were stateless, having not one instead of the almost two dozen states they actually possess. Now assume that there were fifty, not five, million Israeli Jews who had far more political clout on the world scene than they actually have. Take this a step further, and imagine that Israel then demanded that if nations wished to have relations with itself, they would have to forever deny Arabs any hope of statehood and national dignity.

Sounds unreasonable, unjust and nasty, no?

Yet that is precisely what the Turks expect of nations -- including Israel -- who wish to have relations with Ankara.

Indeed, while joining the rest of the world in insisting that Arabs have their 22nd or 23rd state (one dedicated, by the way, to the destruction of the sole, miniscule nation the Jews have), the Turks view as an outright enemy any who support the rights of some thirty million stateless and often oppressed and abused Kurds to a small share of national dignity in the region.

With America as its guarantor, there's going to be a free and independent Kurdistan.

Posted by Orrin Judd at August 9, 2004 9:53 AM

We've betrayed the Kurds before, and if Kerry were to be elected, no doubt we could very well again.

Posted by: MB at August 9, 2004 9:57 AM

The French and Germans would welcome war with Turkey--Kerry would do their bidding.

Posted by: oj at August 9, 2004 10:48 AM

Early in 2003, you were singing a different tune.

In fact, there might be a rump Kurdistan, tho' Bush policy so far is to force them into an unwanted government as an oppressed minority. But the chance that the US will follow its stated principles and back a Great Kurdistan at the expense of Turkey, Syria, Iran and Russia is nil.

Posted by: Harry Eagar at August 9, 2004 2:06 PM

There's not going to be US support for an independent Kurdistan in our lifetimes. Give it another 50 years, and yeah, maybe.

Posted by: John at August 9, 2004 6:18 PM


August 05, 2002

"It will infuriate the Turks, but we should lift the Northern no-fly zone and recognize the independent state of Kurdistan immediately."


If they declare independence we have no choice.

Posted by: oj at August 9, 2004 6:28 PM

The Turks are immeasurably weaker today than they were 3 years ago - they turned down the US on a Northern Iraqi front, and they supplicate before the EU to get in the door. Their choice may come down to allowing some sort of Kurdistan, or descending into what is Syria.

Posted by: jim hamlen at August 9, 2004 9:21 PM

I wasn't here in 2002. You've flipflopped twice now, then.

When the war was approaching, you were advocating a Shia-Kurd state, I recall.

Posted by: Harry Eagar at August 9, 2004 10:22 PM

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Posted by: fiorcet at November 17, 2004 12:09 AM

as a kurd i would say :
the only way out of iraq is to split iraq into three nations..
so calling for an independent kurdistan is not only benificial to kurds,but it would be benificial to u.s.a and arab iraqis as well..
in fact kurds would be happy to offer every help and support to america in terms of turning the arab part of iraq into real democracy ,but that should not prevent them thier intitlement to independent kurdistan...

Posted by: hiwa bakir at November 26, 2004 10:18 PM