June 9, 2004

SO FAR RIGHT THEY'VE LEFT:

Ralph Nader: Conservatively Speaking: The long-time progressive makes a pitch for the disenfranchised Right. (Pat Buchanan, June 21, 2004, The American Conservative)

Ralph Nader recently accepted Pat Buchanan’s invitation to sit down with us and explain why his third-party presidential bid ought to appeal to conservatives disaffected with George W. Bush. We think readers will be interested in the reflections of a man who has been a major figure in American public life for 40 years—and who now finds himself that rarest of birds, a conviction politician.

Pat Buchanan: Let me start off with foreign policy—Iraq and the Middle East. You have seen the polls indicating widespread contempt for the United States abroad. Why do they hate us?


The more interesting question, of course, is why Messrs. Nader and Buchanan hate America.

Posted by Orrin Judd at June 9, 2004 9:23 PM
Comments

Nader shouldn't hate America - he has become rich while slumming on cable TV. Umm, I guess Pat has done the same.

Posted by: jim hamlen at June 9, 2004 9:56 PM

Again confirming that the Left-Right political spectrum is really a circle.

Posted by: Gideon at June 9, 2004 9:58 PM

Confirming again that most guys wait way too long past their primes to quit. I think Jim Brown was the only one I can remember who hung up his uni while he was still on top of the league.

Posted by: Robert Schwartz at June 9, 2004 10:26 PM

Robert-- in a different forum, Bill Watterson.

Posted by: John Thacker at June 9, 2004 11:12 PM

Barry Sanders.

Posted by: Michael Herdegen at June 10, 2004 12:20 AM

Why?

Simply because it's not the America they know. And love. Because it's been hijacked by the shadowy, treasonous cabal.

And so they must make common cause to kick out the usurpers. This takes precedence over all.

(Once that is achieved, they can resume whacking each other. Sort of like the current Sunni-Shia alliance in Faluja.)

Posted by: Barry Meislin at June 10, 2004 2:06 AM

It is well known that Pat Buchanan has held the Bush family in contempt for many years. Anything a Bush does is seen as treasonous; furthermore, Pat Buchanan has long showed that he has a large anti-semitic streak within him.

Posted by: Vince at June 10, 2004 2:33 AM

Michael

Barry Sanders is actually an example of someone who quit way too early. Maybe Jim Brown also. I rather they go longer, what are they going to do in retirement, play golf? (or in the case of Jim Brown and Pat Buchannan make an a** of themselves)

Posted by: h-man at June 10, 2004 6:41 AM

H-man:

You cut me to the quick. The day he hung up his spikes, he needed to prove nothing more. However, if you check his filmography on IMDB you will find a long list, and while great art is missing, I am sure that 98% of the holders of SAG cards would surrender a body part for that many years of that much work.

Also from IMDB:

One of the greatest football players who ever lived (fullback with the Cleveland Browns for a decade, from 1957 to 1967), this good-looking athlete was drafted by Hollywood and lent his imposing presence to a number of high-profile movies in the 1960s, and starred in "blaxploitation" films in the 1970s. He also served as president of Richard Pryor's production company for a time. After a long absence from mainstream movies, he took a role in Arnold Schwarzenegger's The Running Man (1987) and then spoofed his own image in I'm Gonna Git You Sucka (1988).

OTHER FILMS INCLUDE: 1964: Rio Conchos 1967: The Dirty Dozen 1968: Dark of the Sun, The Split, Ice Station Zebra 1970: EB>, El Condor, The Grasshopper 1972: Slaughter, Black Gunn 1973: Slaughter's Big Rip-off, I Escaped From Devil's Island, The Slams 1974: Three the Hard Way 1975: Take a Hard Ride 1978: Fingers.

Posted by: Robert Schwartz at June 10, 2004 6:55 PM

h-man:

I agree, Sanders had many good seasons left in him, and it's also hard to say that he was "on top", in the sense that his team was never going to help him aquire a Championship ring.

However, he left of his own volition, and at his personal peak.

Watching film of him is like ballet.

I used to fantasize that he'd get fed up with Detroit, and go to Denver to play with Elway.

Posted by: Michael Herdegen at June 10, 2004 11:30 PM
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