June 10, 2004
MT RUSHMORE IS TOO SMALL
Reagan for Rushmore? He was great, but we are conservatives. (John Derbyshire, National Review Online, 6/10/04)
Should Ronald Reagan be on Mount Rushmore?I've seen all the proposals to honor President Reagan by putting him on the dime, or on a new $25 bill, or to name various things after him, or to put him on Mt. Rushmore. None of these honors are big enough. The only fitting tribute is this: rename the State of California the State of Reagan. Posted by David Cohen at June 10, 2004 8:19 PMAn NR editor asked me to opine briefly on that question. I say no: Reagan should not be on Mount Rushmore. I say this with some diffidence, as I know the late president means a very great deal to most of my colleagues — much more than, in all honesty, he does to me. That is not to slight Reagan in any way, or to express skepticism as to his achievements. It is only to record the fact that I can't claim any personal acquaintance with Reagan, was not in the U.S. for most of his presidency, and did not have my own conservatism formed by his presence in the way so many of my colleagues did. I can therefore understand why many of them would like to see the Great Communicator up there; it is just that I myself take a cooler, more distant view.
I think you've hit upon a good idea. By the time the ACLU gets finished I suspect the name California will have to go anyway. Go ahead and do it now.
Posted by: Tom Wall at June 10, 2004 8:34 PMA bigger canvas.
http://www.ttsw.com/rushmoreisfull.html
While I love the idea of renaming California (how people would squeal!) I don't think it's likely to happen; renaming Cape Canaveral to honor John Kennedy seems less controversial than the Reagan/California thing, and enough complained for THAT to get overturned. Plus, if it did happen you can only imagine the politicians who would squawk for their own territory: Arkansas would become Clintonia, Bob Dornan's hometown would now be B-1, and everything in West Virginia not named after Robert Byrd would become so.
What I would like is for the California state quarter to picture Reagan, and to identify only as Ronaldus Magnus, as Rush puts it. Either that, or rename some major interstate highway (perhaps one that goes through both red and blue states) as Reagan's Way.
Posted by: John Barrett Jr. at June 10, 2004 9:18 PMThat provides some interesting pop culture twists...
"Reaganfornication" (Wrong president.)
"I Wish They All Could Be Reagan Girls" (Ain't it the truth)
"Reagan Dreaming"
Of course, the idea of a college entitled "The University of Reagan-Berkley" means that it is absolutely necessary that this happens.
Posted by: Timothy at June 10, 2004 9:19 PMDavid: Now I'm gonna cry.
Posted by: Chris at June 10, 2004 9:30 PMThe best suggestion I've seen is to replace Grant on the $50 bill. He was a pretty bad president after all (though a fine general).
Posted by: PapayaSF at June 10, 2004 9:36 PMKeep Grant on the fifty - I think it's that two bills (three pieces of money, if you count the Lincoln penny) honor the Civil War. If anything, bring back the $500 bill (McKinley? Why?) or the $1000 (Cleveland - ditto) and put Reagan on THAT, because his policies let you earn more of those.
I also noted that the people on coinage are mostly Democrats and the people on bills are mostly Republicans/Federalists - why escapes me, but it's fun to speculate.
Posted by: John Barrett Jr. at June 10, 2004 10:05 PMKeep Grant on the fifty - I think it's that two bills (three pieces of money, if you count the Lincoln penny) honor the Civil War. If anything, bring back the $500 bill (McKinley? Why?) or the $1000 (Cleveland - ditto) and put Reagan on THAT, because his policies let you earn more of those.
I also note that the people on coinage are mostly Democrats and the people on bills are mostly Republicans/Federalists - why escapes me, but it's fun to speculate.
Posted by: John Barrett Jr. at June 10, 2004 10:05 PMI am opposed to idolatry, so I say give it a rest for a few years. As far as coins go I am in favor scraping the current set and developping a new set 5 and 25 cent 1 and 5 dollars. Indian heads, traditional (Sacagewaw was ugly), and native mega fauna tails -- Bison, Gators, Big Horns, Bald Eagles.
A new set of Bills also. $20, 100, 500, 1000.
Washington, Hamilton, Jefferson and Lincoln
Timothy -- I had not thought about the University of Reagan-Berkley. You're right. That must happen.
Posted by: David Cohen at June 10, 2004 10:23 PMOrrin, put me in touch with your dealer. That is some hard-core bad-ass stone-cold brain-cell-massacring testicle-shrinking crack you must be smoking.
Posted by: Noel Erinjeri at June 11, 2004 2:48 AMSome body called in to one of the radio shows to put Reagan on a new $40 bill.
Why a $40 bill? the host asked.
Because he was the 40th president!
And the caller had a heavy accent, which somehow struck me as - being American.
Posted by: Bobby at June 11, 2004 3:04 AMCalifornia? Tish, why stop there?
You should rename the moon!
Call it 'the Reagan'... as in "there's a lovely full Reagan tonight, isn't there dear?"
You own it, after all. Got a flag in it and everything.
Posted by: Brit at June 11, 2004 4:21 AMDavid Cohen --
The idea of a Ronald Reagan University was raised in late April. Nancy Reagan vetoed the idea two days later.
The '-Berkley' was not part of the proposal and the school was to be built outside Denver, CO.
Posted by: Uncle Bill at June 11, 2004 7:28 AMBrit: Go to the link in the second comment.
Mr. Erinjeri: Orrin doesn't deserve the blame for this suggestion. Your reaction, however, doesn't make the idea less appealing.
Posted by: David Cohen at June 11, 2004 7:29 AMAh well. Fools seldom differ, they say.
Posted by: Brit at June 11, 2004 8:08 AMI definitely think you'll probably eventually
see some counties in various states especially
ones with weird Indian names or ones named after
people that nobody remembers take on the Reagan
name.
Name the first permanent space colony "Reaganopolis." With all the solar panels, it'll be a shining city. Just make sure and put it on a hill.
Posted by: Mike Morley at June 11, 2004 9:37 AMI'll get really scared if I start seeing busts
of Reagan wearing a Toga and a laurel wreath
start popping up, although maybe he could be
sculpted in that suit of armor like Oliver Cromwell and stuck on the mall?
Just slap his name on a new aircraft carrier. That should be fine until something new opens up. But then again, I thought it obscene that we started naming buildings and airports after someone who was still alive at the time.
I find it very insulting to other great Americans that simply because Reagan is the newest visitor to the unknown country that his name should replace theirs. With that kind of mentality, we just have to wait for the next great President and we can remove Reagan from everything we put him on. And that guy will stay until the next one comes. Why don't we just change Lincoln's head to Reagan's in the Lincoln Memorial.
Do we really want a country where our heritage is shows only people who lived in recent memory?
Posted by: Chris Durnell at June 11, 2004 11:37 AMThere is an aircraft carrier named the USS Ronald Reagan. If I were to have something named after me, an aircraft carrier would be the coolest thing. Much better than an interstate highway.
I am against re-naming geography after dead people. I went back to RI a few years ago, and was upset to find that one of my favorite beaches as a boy was renamed "Gov. Wheeler beach". Geography will outlive us all, and should have permanent names. Renaming man-made things is more appropriate.
Posted by: Robert Duquette at June 11, 2004 12:18 PMHere in the Upper Left Washington, about twenty years ago the County Council "officially" renamed King County from Rufus D. King, former Vice President of the U.S, to Martin L. King, Jr.
Here's a list of places with "Reagan" already in the name.
Brit:
It's a toss-up as to who will own the Moon, the US or China.
Right now, the betting has to favour the US, but China's got a legitimate chance.
Posted by: Michael Herdegen at June 11, 2004 4:24 PM"Right now, the betting has to favour the US, but China's got a legitimate chance"
Not according to oj,tho he never explains why.
Posted by: at June 11, 2004 5:41 PMPut him on the $3
Posted by: Harry Eagar at June 11, 2004 8:30 PMHarry: We all steal, but you owe yourself better than stealing from Jimmy Breslin.
Posted by: David Cohen at June 11, 2004 9:45 PMThe best idea I have heard so far was to start a new program to privatize/downsize the Federal government and name THAT after Reagan.
Posted by: Jason Johnson at June 12, 2004 11:10 AMWe could use a replacement for "he Old Man on the Moutain" here in NH. Now that would be cool.
But we'd have to hurry because we're sliding left demographically because of immigrants from the South.
Perhaps that's why "The Old man" couldn't hang on any longer.
Posted by: Genecis at June 12, 2004 12:03 PM