May 8, 2004
WOLF!, PART XII (via Kevin Whited):
Democracy Now: The Bush administration seems not to recognize how widespread, and how bipartisan, is the view that Iraq is already lost or on the verge of being lost. (Robert Kagan and William Kristol, 05/17/2004, Weekly Standard)
[I]raq could be lost if the Bush administration holds to the view that it can press ahead with its political and military strategy without any dramatic change of course, without taking bold and visible action to reverse the current downward trajectory. The existing Bush administration plan in Iraq is to wait for U.N. envoy Lakhdar Brahimi to name an interim Iraqi caretaker government by the end of May that will take power on July 1, and prepare for elections in January 2005. This plan might have been adequate a couple of months ago. But it is inadequate to meet the new challenge.Among the biggest mistakes made by the Bush administration over the past year has been the failure to move Iraq more rapidly toward elections. It's true that many, inside and outside the administration, have long been clamoring to hand over more responsibility to Iraqis, responsibility above all for doing more of the fighting and dying. But the one thing even many of these friends of Iraq have been unwilling to hand over to Iraqis is the right to choose their own government. This is a mistake.
We do not believe in the present circumstances that the current administration plan moves quickly enough toward providing Iraqis real sovereignty.
You can set your watch by these two, who seemingly declare defeat for the Administration anytime the folks they see on the cocktail circuit make them squirm. The beauty of this essay is that it directly contradicts their own of last November, when any sign of moving the transfer of power forward meant we'd been defeated. The other amusing thing to note is their belief that discrete actions by the United States government are determinative of the future of Iraq. Such faith in the State is what keeps most neos from actually being cons.
Having said all that, their conversion to the side of democratizing more rapidly is certainly welcome. If only they'd been advocating it in May of 2003--instead of dreaming of Iraq as a semi-permanent U.S. military base of operations--we'd not be where we are today.
MORE:
Crisis of Confidence: The cause is still just, but to keep it moving forward, we
have to reboot. (DAVID BROOKS, 5/08/04, NY Times)
It's pretty clear we're passing through another pivot point in American foreign policy. A year ago, we were the dominant nation in a unipolar world. Today, we're a shellshocked hegemon.We still face a world of threats, but we're much less confident about our own power. We still know we can roll over hostile armies, but we cannot roll over problems. We get dragged down into them. We can topple tyrants, but we don't seem to be very good at administering nations. Our intelligence agencies have made horrible mistakes. Our diplomacy vis-à-vis Western Europe has been inept. We have a military filled with heroes, but the atrocities of a few have eclipsed the nobility of the many.
In short, we are on the verge of a crisis of confidence.
Just because neocons start wetting their pants doesn't mean the nation has night terrors.
-'Lowering Our Sights' (Robert Kagan, May 2, 2004, Washington Post)
Calls for a withdrawal from Iraq are starting to pop up all over the place now and will proliferate in the coming days and weeks. I find even the administration's strongest supporters, including fervent advocates of the war a year ago and even some who could be labeled "neoconservatives," now despairing and looking for an exit.They don't put quite that way, of course. Instead, they say that seeking democracy in Iraq is too ambitious; we need to lower our sights and settle for stability. But this is probably just a way station on the road to calling for withdrawal, for it ought to be clear that even establishing stability in Iraq will require a continued American military occupation and continued casualties for quite some time to come.
Faced with that reality, conservatives and even neoconservatives can be heard muttering these days that if the Iraqis won't take responsibility for their own country, we should leave them to their fate. That is what "lowering our sights" really means.
-What the British learned in 1920 by not leaving Iraq (Scott Peterson, 3/11/04, The Christian Science Monitor)
It's one of the loneliest places in Baghdad - the British military cemetery, where hundreds of forlorn gravestones attest to the price of imperialism in Iraq.Posted by Orrin Judd at May 8, 2004 8:11 AMIn 1920, a Shiite revolt erupted against British occupiers, who had arrived in Mesopotamia at the start of World War I. Britain pushed out Ottoman forces, but didn't move fast enough to create a promised new nation state. The uprising surprised the British, left more than 2,200 occupation troops and an estimated 8,450 Iraqis dead or wounded - and cost, by one account, three times as much as British financing of the entire Arab revolt against the Ottomans.
Today the US faces the same dilemma that dogged the British: How to grant self-rule to Iraqis as promised, while keeping overall control. Despite rhetoric from Washington that it will transform Iraq into a democratic beacon in the Mideast, few Iraqis believe the US is sincere.
"The Americans believe in democracy, but they do not believe in its results," says Gailan Ramiz, an Iraqi political scientist with degrees from Princeton, Harvard, and Oxford. "The ballot box should rule - period. It is so in America, and it should be so in Iraq. It can't be avoided by any more tactics." Changing such attitudes will require the US to learn lessons from the British colonial experience - lessons applied only fitfully so far.
I still think Kristol and GWB had to have had some sort of head-butting incident during the Bush 41 administration, to explain Bill's rabid support for McCain during the 2000 primary election. Looking at it four years down the line, Kristol and Kagan's constant desire to cut and run on virtually any policy when the going gets tough, in contrast with Bush's desire to set a policy and stick it out no matter what setbacks occur, makes me believe even more that they were polar opposites when offering advice to the president back in the early 1990s.
Posted by: John at May 8, 2004 8:34 AMJohn:
Don't underestimate the role of religion in the neocons contempt for W.
Posted by: oj at May 8, 2004 8:38 AMI like the concept of a permanent military presence in the region; but as guests and out of their turbans. Perhaps in Kurdistan near the Iranian border. It would provide some stability while they straighten out their own mess.
Posted by: genecis at May 8, 2004 9:57 AMOJ --
That's probably part of it, but Kristol's comments four years ago, even during the fall campaign against Gore, were so contemptuious of Bush at times it seemed there had to be more involved than just a clash of beliefs or Bill's pique that he wasn't going to be Chief of Staff for President McCain come January 2001.
Posted by: John at May 8, 2004 1:13 PMI recall when the spy plane indicident with China happened early in W's term. Kristol was calling Bush a wimp for essentially not nuking China. Brit Hume had a great line - something like "that type of thinking is so far out there the buses don't go there".
To OJ's point Kagan and Kristol do seem to have a knack for moving the wrong way on a story.
Let's not be too quick to rule out nuking China.
Posted by: oj at May 8, 2004 3:41 PMRe: "how widespread, and how bipartisan, is the view that Iraq is already lost or on the verge of being lost" ...
Not to be Master of the Obvious or anything, but maybe this view wouldn't be so widespread if opinion makers in the chattering class weren't saying it all the time. DUH! Kind of hard for people to think anything else, isn't it?
Posted by: Jeff Brokaw at May 8, 2004 7:49 PMLooks lost to me, but then it always did.
Posted by: Harry Eagar at May 9, 2004 3:53 AMWhich is why your shtick about evidence is false--the facts must fit your ideology.
Posted by: oj at May 9, 2004 8:20 AMI don't have an ideology. The fact that Muslims never figured out how to govern themselves when they were powerful must mean something.
Popular self-governance is a learned behavior, and like anything else, you have to want to learn to learn it.
My job is to observe how people make a living. I don't get to look at their accounts, so I have to use other types of evidence. When it comes to the desire for self-governance, garbage is a good kind of proxy evidence.
It may not be practical to change the course of history, but anybody can get together with neighbors and clean up his own backyard.
You read some meaningless statements about what Shia believe and imagine they are incipient democrats. I read reports that Sadr City is up to its eyeballs in garbage.
That tells me what I need to know about their interest in self-governance.
Posted by: Harry Eagar at May 9, 2004 5:41 PMYes, that belief that you are unique, though little more than the sum of a combination of Left platitutudes of the 40s, is your ideology--Harryism.
Posted by: oj at May 9, 2004 6:39 PMIt's far too early to know whether we've won or lost, and those who wish to proclaim either usually have an ulterior motive, such as hatred of Bush, a need to produce a column, or a desire to be re-elected.
It does seem likely that the Kurds have won, they'll probably be better off regardless of what any future Iraq looks like.
Depending on what happens with Iraq's neighbors, the invasion might still be a net positive, even if Iraq implodes.
Posted by: Michael Herdegen at May 10, 2004 2:51 AM