May 5, 2004

THE SHAH ALWAYS FALLS, EVEN WHEN HE'S THE AYATOLLAHS:

Those Friendly Iranians (NICHOLAS D. KRISTOF, 5/05/04, NY Times)

Finally, I've found a pro-American country.

Everywhere I've gone in Iran, with one exception, people have been exceptionally friendly and fulsome in their praise for the United States, and often for President Bush as well. Even when I was detained a couple of days ago in the city of Isfahan for asking a group of young people whether they thought the Islamic revolution had been a mistake (they did), the police were courteous and let me go after an apology.

They apologized; I didn't.

On my first day in Tehran, I dropped by the "Den of Spies," as the old U.S. Embassy is now called. It's covered with ferocious murals denouncing America as the "Great Satan" and the "archvillain of nations" and showing the Statue of Liberty as a skull (tour the "Den of Spies" here).

Then I stopped to chat with one of the Revolutionary Guards now based in the complex. He was a young man who quickly confessed that his favorite movie is "Titanic." "If I could manage it, I'd go to America tomorrow," he said wistfully.

He paused and added, "To hell with the mullahs." [...]

[M]any Iranians seem convinced that the U.S. military ventures in Afghanistan and Iraq are going great, and they say this with more conviction than your average White House spokesman.

One opinion poll showed that 74 percent of Iranians want a dialogue with the U.S. — and the finding so irritated the authorities that they arrested the pollster. Iran is also the only Muslim country I know where citizens responded to the 9/11 attacks with a spontaneous candlelight vigil as a show of sympathy.

Iran-U.S. relations are now headed for a crisis over Tehran's nuclear program, which appears to be so advanced that Iran could produce its first bomb by the end of next year. The Bush administration is right to address this issue, but it needs to step very carefully to keep from inflaming Iranian nationalism and uniting the population behind the regime. We need to lay out the evidence on satellite television programs that are broadcast into Iran, emphasizing that the regime is squandering money on a nuclear weapons program that will further isolate Iranians and damage their economy.

Left to its own devices, the Islamic revolution is headed for collapse, and there is a better chance of a strongly pro-American democratic government in Tehran in a decade than in Baghdad. The ayatollahs' best hope is that hard-liners in Washington will continue their inept diplomacy, creating a wave of Iranian nationalism that bolsters the regime — as happened to a lesser degree after President Bush put Iran in the axis of evil.

Oh, that one instance when I was treated inhospitably? That was in a teahouse near the Isfahan bazaar, where I was interviewing religious conservatives. They were warm and friendly, but a group of people two tables away went out of their way to be rude, yelling at me for being an American propagandist. So I finally encountered hostility in Iran — from a table full of young Europeans.


Other than his rather silly assertion that our putting pressure on their government to reform angers the people this is pretty sensible. Of course, he misses the point of his own essay: the question isn't Iraq ten years from now but twenty-five from now, when they'll be just another ally.

Posted by Orrin Judd at May 5, 2004 9:49 PM
Comments

Item 1: He notes that the Iranians are cheering on the US military ventures in their neighbors, Iraq and Afghanistan.

Item 2: They seem to love us a lot more in Iran, where we're officially opposed to their government, then in any of the Arab states where we reluctantly ally with their dictators for reasons of stability and realpolitick.

These things should tell him something. Still, could be worse. At least the information's getting out there.

Posted by: John Thacker at May 5, 2004 10:35 PM

"The ayatollahs' best hope is that hard-liners in Washington will continue their inept diplomacy, creating a wave of Iranian nationalism that bolsters the regime — as happened to a lesser degree after President Bush put Iran in the axis of evil."/i>

An example of how too many people who should know better are incapable of understanding the differences between tactics and strategy. (Or their politics has numbed their ability to rationally assess the actions their political opponents.)

Posted by: Raoul Ortega at May 5, 2004 10:49 PM

Nothing we could do could "create nationalists."

They are already nationalists, except the ones who want to succeed who are, naturally, antinationalists.

Just because they don't like the current administration, that doesn't mean they've somehow rejected their political identity. Just as Orrin did not like the Clinton administration but that did not turn him into an antiAmerican.

Posted by: Harry Eagar at May 5, 2004 11:08 PM

'secede' not 'succeed'

Posted by: Harry Eagar at May 6, 2004 2:02 AM

"the question isn't Iraq ten years from now but twenty-five from now"

Unfortunately, the other big question is Iran ten *months* from now, and whether they're going to be lobbing nukes at Tel Aviv.

Posted by: ralph phelan at May 6, 2004 8:18 AM

ralph:

Israel will take out the installations long before they have functional weapons.

Posted by: oj at May 6, 2004 8:27 AM
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