May 5, 2004

DESPERATE TIMES...:

2-for-1 Voting: If Ralph Nader truly has no desire to be a spoiler in: November, he can structure his candidacy to allow his supporters to vote both for him and for Senator John Kerry. (BRUCE ACKERMAN, 5/05/04, NY Times)

In November, Americans won't be casting their ballots directly for George Bush, John Kerry or Ralph Nader. From a constitutional point of view, they will be voting for competing slates of electors nominated in each state by the contenders. Legally speaking, the decisions made by these 538 members of the Electoral College determine the next president.

In the case of Mr. Bush and Mr. Kerry, electors will be named by each state's political parties. But Ralph Nader is running as an independent. When he petitions to get on the ballot in each state, he must name his own slate of electors. While he is free to nominate a distinctive slate of names, he can also propose the very same names that appear on the Kerry slate.

If he does, he will provide voters with a new degree of freedom. On Election Day, they will see a line on the ballot designating Ralph Nader's electors. But if voters choose the Nader line, they won't be wasting their ballot on a candidate with little chance of winning. Since Mr. Nader's slate would be the same as Mr. Kerry's, his voters would be providing additional support for the electors selected by the Democrats. If the Nader-Kerry total is a majority in any state, the victorious electors would be free to vote for Mr. Kerry.


Boy, there's no one left who thinks Kerry can win is there?

Posted by Orrin Judd at May 5, 2004 10:44 PM
Comments

Chuck Todd?

Posted by: Jeff at May 5, 2004 11:01 PM

This is called a "fusion ticket". It's legal in New York, which is why the endorsement of the Conservative and former Liberal Parties can (or cold) mean something to a candidate. It's not legal in most other states, which is why you don't see Conservative Parties in other states.

He brings up one of the interesting reasons why it might not be a bad idea, in that it allows disadents to express their support (or lack thereof) for a candidate. For example, if a Specter got 20% of his votes through a Liberal Party vote, he'd have even less reason to pay attention to the GOP conservatives. Of course, they'd have the Buckley solution to the Javitts problem, so it'd work both ways.

Like most "reforms", it would most likely end up hurting those who favor it the most-- another example of the short-term thinking typical of the so-called reformers.

And I hope the rest of Mr.Ackerman's analyses aren't as bad is this one. I mean, c'mon, how hard is to do a google search? Start with Timons v.
Twin Cities Area New Party
. (For example, one source says it's also legal in Conn., Vermont and Utah, in none of which Nader is going to have much affect.)

My standard for punditry is like that for art-- if I can do it, it's not punditry.

Posted by: Raoul Ortega at May 6, 2004 2:07 AM

Well, the always hysterical Andrew Sullivan thinks Kerry will win big time. He even seems to think that Kerry will be some kind of warrior president. Has somebody checked Andrew's pills lately ?

Posted by: Peter at May 6, 2004 3:11 AM

Peter:

Between gay marriage and his hysteria over Kerry, Sullivan really seems to have gone off the rails lately. I notice that he always seems to put the worst interpretration, in terms of who's winning and who's losing, on anything GWB does in the campaign (e.g., his current bus tour through the Midwestern battleground states, which would seem to any reasonable observer to be a basic political move - and one that Kerry, who doesn't even have an organization in Ohio but is relying on the unions to carry his water for him, hasn't undertaken yet).

Posted by: Joe at May 6, 2004 5:36 AM

Why is it that no one on the left takes Nader seriously when he says (and says and says and says) that he wants radical change in the country that neither political party will deliver and that, compared to that change, the two parties are indistinguishable? I would have thought that the war and Kerry's support forit would have made his point for him.

Posted by: David Cohen at May 6, 2004 7:36 AM

Peter:

Don't forget, with Mr. Sullivan only one issue matters and Democrats advance it.

Posted by: oj at May 6, 2004 7:49 AM

But Democrats don't advance Sullivan's issues. They talk about advancing them. Democrat Jim McGreevey is doing all he can to stop the lawsuit for gay marriage rights in NJ. He's not doing that so the legislature can address the issue (as they should - rather than the courts). He's doing that to take the issue off the table.

I used to really love Andrew Sullivan's analysis, but he seems lately to have gone completely off the deep end. He's become clueless about nearly everything he addresses.

Posted by: NKR at May 6, 2004 7:57 AM

NKR:

Mr. McGreevy has unique reasons for his approach, chiefly Golan Cipel

Posted by: oj at May 6, 2004 8:13 AM

And in criticizing Republicans over gay marriage, Sullivan seems to forget that the Defense of Marriage Act was the work of Bill Clinton. And of course on today's page he seems to imply that a 4-point Kerry lead in New Hampshire (within the margin of error - SIX MONTHS before the election) is a harbinger of a Kerry victory.

I like Sullivan's writing style and he has good points now and then but the consuming energy he spends on his pet issue seems to cloud his judgment about everything else.

Posted by: John Barrett Jr. at May 6, 2004 10:44 AM

As Kerry continues to bob and weave with the far left wing of his own party, nader will continue to pick up stem. Right now I think it likely that Ralphie will get as many or more votes than he did in 00.

Posted by: Robert Schwartz at May 7, 2004 12:07 AM
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