April 23, 2004

ORDER, THEN LIBERTY:

Founders Quote Daily (The Federalist)

[N]either the wisest constitution nor the wisest laws will
secure the liberty and happiness of a people whose manners are
universally corrupt.
-Samuel Adams

Posted by Orrin Judd at April 23, 2004 8:43 AM
Comments

In the secularist new world, corruption of manners is a relative concept existing only in the mind of each observer. Is that not, generally, the official position of the contemporary elite enforced by the courts? The sentiments of Mr. Adams would be easily dismissed as small minded bigotry from a dark and ignorant past.

Posted by: at April 23, 2004 9:23 AM

Yes, but we're small minded ignorant bigots here, tightly moored to the dark past.

Posted by: oj at April 23, 2004 9:39 AM

If you really want to be seen as a beyond-the-pale religious fascist, try suggesting that there should be laws against cursing in public.

Posted by: Peter B at April 23, 2004 10:19 AM

Peter

Bit tricky to enforce. Try mentioning that your wife's 'fanny' is a bit sore after the long flight and you'll get some odd looks in England. Likewise Brits should never claim to be 'desperate for a fag' in the States.

Talking about Immanuel Kant is also ill-advised, if you've got a good German accent.

Posted by: Brit at April 23, 2004 11:10 AM

Brit:

I recall going beet-red while visiting a friend at Oxford when a group of quite artistocratic men and women talked about how they were all going out that evening for a thrash.

Not hard to enforce at all. Just charge in a few obvious, outlandish cases and general behaviour will change quickly. The objective should be to moderate offensive excess, not purify the air.

Posted by: Peter B at April 23, 2004 11:34 AM

Just ban the Brits. All the worthwhile ones moved here centuries ago...

Posted by: oj at April 23, 2004 11:39 AM

You say tomayto, I say tomarto.

You say "worthwhile ones", I say "damnable traitors".

Posted by: Brit at April 23, 2004 11:44 AM

But it's the ones who stayed who betrayed old English ideals and turned the place statist, eurocentric, and soccerific.

Posted by: oj at April 23, 2004 11:51 AM

What about Burke?

I heard he had a style...

Posted by: Brit at April 23, 2004 11:58 AM

He was Irish. We like them.

Posted by: oj at April 23, 2004 12:06 PM

Brit:

Or like the snickers I got from a Brit and Aussie when I mentioned the tired looking "shag" carpeting.

Posted by: Rick T. at April 23, 2004 2:02 PM

Rick:

I can tell you that GWB will understand exactly what you mean when you say "shag". After all, his Dr. Evil impersonation is world-famous.

Posted by: Joe at April 23, 2004 10:57 PM
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