April 1, 2004

DON'T BUILD THE WALL:

Religious civil society is antidote to anarchy in Iraq and Afghanistan: A church-state connection may lessen the degeneration of Iraq and Afghanistan. (Amitai Etzioni, 4/01/04, CS Monitor)

Advocates of liberty assume that people are good by nature, but corrupted by totalitarian regimes - and that once these regimes unravel, people will take to doing what is right. But being pro- social requires that people internalize a moral code. Communities must gently chide those who deviate from the straight and narrow and honor those who fulfill their social obligations.

In the long run, liberated societies can form new informal moral codes and social controls. In the short run, however, they must build on what is in place. And in many areas, this is religion. I refer not to the fundamentalist but to the moderate teachings that exist in all religions, Islam included. The line that separates the two is precisely what is at issue: Fundamentalism undergirds totalitarian regimes; moderate practices depend largely on moral suasion.

As a guest of Iran's reformers in 2001, I learned their main goal is to establish "a religious civil society" in which people will want to follow the prophet Muhammad rather than being forced to do so. The fact that to Western ears a "religious civil society" sounds like an oxymoron is precisely what is wrong with Western thinking.

The West should not export the French or American idea of separation of religion and state, but instead draw in moderate mullahs and other religious figures as one of the best ways to shore up social order, as has been done in southern Iraq. And whatever other social groupings - ethnic or tribal - that promote informal moral codes must be drawn in if they seek to persuade people to live up to their duties rather than violate basic human rights or worse.


They should profit by the West's mistake and not seek to become as disastrously secular as Europe has and as we were.

Posted by Orrin Judd at April 1, 2004 8:11 AM
Comments

Mr. Etzioni's comment regarding the western "seperation of religion and state" is an accurate description of what has in fact occurred and what is being pressed forward by the courts in response to the sloppy thinking and elitist reasoning regarding the danger of sectarianism. Religious wars have never been a feature of American life while the secular materialist elite believe it is just around the corner.

The traditional institutions of religion have always played a role in American history and have been encouraged along the way by the state at all levels, until recently. As the mediating institutions have been weakened by the courts the state has grown to proportions hardly imagined by earlier generations. The religion of the state is irreligion, secular materialism or atheism which all support an ideological statism which is un-American at its core. Secular matetrialism as the officially sanctioned state religion is a dead end that will destroy the basic institutions of society through unrestrained social engineering. Without a belief in a higher power is there any reason not to run the experiments with all of the arrogance and hubris of men?

Posted by: Tom C., Stamford,Ct. at April 1, 2004 8:57 AM

He may be right about Iraq, but Afghanistan already had a religious-civil society, didn't it?

Posted by: Harry Eagar at April 1, 2004 12:59 PM

No, they had a religious state.

Posted by: oj at April 1, 2004 1:05 PM

OJ: Excellent riposte.

Posted by: Chris at April 1, 2004 1:16 PM

Moderate mullah?

Given what I have read about the Q'uran, the only way a mullah could be moderate is to arrive at his own righteousness.

From what I have read here recently, we can't be having any of that.

Posted by: Jeff Guinn at April 1, 2004 1:38 PM

A distinction without a difference, as far as I can see.

Posted by: Harry Eagar at April 2, 2004 12:48 AM

Harry:

But your vision is notoriously bad.

Posted by: oj at April 2, 2004 8:45 AM
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