March 25, 2004

SON RISE:

Blair meets Gadhafi, sees 'common cause' (MSNBC News Services, March 25, 2004)

In a state visit that marks Britain's willingness to welcome Libya back into the international community, British Prime Minister Tony Blair met with Libyan leader Moammar Gadhafi on Thursday, saying that the two shared a common goal in defeating the al-Qaida terrorist network.

After historic talks with the Libyan leader, Blair said Gaddafi recognized “a common cause with us in the fight against al-Qaida, extremism and terrorism, which threatens not just the Western world but the Arab world also.”

“We are showing by our engagement with Libya today that it is possible for countries in the Arab world to work with the United States and the U.K. to defeat the common enemy of extremist fanatical terrorism driven by al-Qaida", Blair said, "and to ensure we have a more secure world because of the absence of weapons of mass destruction.”

“I think it is a very, very important signal for the whole of the Arab world,” Blair added.


Ghaddafi's son: Arab leaders should embrace US reform proposals (Khaled Abu Toameh, Mar. 25, 2004, Jerusalem Post)
The son of Libyan leader Muammar Ghaddafi, Saif al-Islam, said on Wednesday that his country would be prepared to compensate Jews who had lost their property in Libya. He also welcomed Libyan Jews to return to Libya and receive Libyan citizenship.

"In the future, we will open the file of compensation for Jews who lost their property and money," Saif al-Islam Ghaddafi said in an interview with al-Jazeera. "These people are Libyans, and therefore they will be compensated. We should call on the 30,000 Jews of Libyan origin who are living in Israel to return to Libya as citizens. This is their land and the land of their ancestors. That way, they will leave the country they took away from the Palestinians."

Ghaddafi's son said his country no longer viewed Israel as an enemy. "Until recently, Israel was an enemy," he said. "But things have changed, and the Palestinians, whom we supported with weapons, are saying that they don't want these weapons. In addition, neither Jordan nor Egypt wants a confrontation [with Israel]. We are not negotiating with Israel because it's not occupying our land; it's not a country with which we are in conflict, and we have no problems with it."

However, he stressed that Libya has no intention of recognizing Israel in the near future.

Saif al-Islam lashed out at the Arab states for failing to endorse democracy and reforms. He called on Arab leaders to agree to US demands to introduce democracy to their countries. "Instead of shouting and criticizing the American initiative, you have to bring democracy to your countries, and then there will be no need to fear America or your people," he said, addressing Arab rulers.

"The Arabs should either change or change will be imposed on them from outside," he said.

He denied reports that he is a candidate to succeed his father. "Many Arab countries are now following the policy of inherited leadership, but there are hundreds of Libyans who are better [suited] than I," Saif al-Islam said.

He even praised Israel, saying that unlike Arab countries, sons do not tend to succeed their fathers in power there.

"We don't place the appropriate person in the right place, but Israel is a democratic country," he added.


Saif al-Islam joins King Mohammed of Morocco and the sons of the Shah and Ayatollah Khomeini as a hopeful sign that there are leaders in this generation who see comprehend the End of History.

Posted by Orrin Judd at March 25, 2004 4:59 PM
Comments

What is the consensus, if any, on Libya's sincerity in all this? Is it for real? I haven't seen much analysis on this point.

Posted by: Rick T. at March 25, 2004 5:57 PM

The article says we trust them less than the Brits do. The kid seems the real deal and has for several years though.

Posted by: oj at March 25, 2004 6:10 PM

Maybe not an "End of History", but an understanding that some trends can't be overcome by wishful thinking and murderous fantasy ideologies. They should be taking their cue from the Japanese, who seem to have managed to incorporate Western ideas and ideals into their culture and yet remain distinctly Japanese. (And note that they too went through a murderous ideological phase to get here.)

Posted by: Raoul Ortega at March 25, 2004 6:10 PM

"We can do business together"?

Posted by: at March 25, 2004 7:21 PM

Yeah, ??? (whoever you are), sounds very Chamberlainish, doesn't it?

I note that every one of the four (4, count 'em, 4) paladins of modernity is the son of an Arab or Iranian prominenti.

They're going to have to get over their infatuation with shiekhs if any of that good stuff is going to stick.

Posted by: Harry Eagar at March 25, 2004 8:56 PM

It was me (new computer), but that is Thatcherish, not Chamberlainish.

Posted by: David Cohen at March 25, 2004 10:14 PM

The words are commendable but actions are the mettle that will gain my trust. Hope springs eternal.

Posted by: genecis at March 26, 2004 12:17 AM

Saddam's sons had a slightly different take on things.
However this is an article that should make us optimistic.

Posted by: h-man at March 26, 2004 1:37 PM

He had to kill his son-in-laws though.

Posted by: oj at March 26, 2004 1:49 PM

David, you may have meant it to be Thatcherish, but in fact it is Chamberlainish. He got there first.

Posted by: Harry Eagar at March 26, 2004 4:20 PM

Americans are infatuated with the rich and famous, and we tend to elect those people to office, but the US seems to do alright.

The test won't so much be, who is elected, but rather, will the voters be allowed to throw the bums out when things go poorly ?

Posted by: Michael Herdegen at March 27, 2004 1:03 PM

After her first meeting with him, Mrs. Thatcher said, "I like Mr Gorbachev, we can do business together."

Thus, given OJ's theory that Blair is Thatcher's heir, an appropriate quote for his meeting with the Libyan. Of course, people also made the Chamberlain comparison when Mrs. Thatcher said it.

Posted by: at March 27, 2004 3:33 PM
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