March 21, 2004
A DEBT THEY CAN NEVER REPAY TO BUSH AND BLAIR:
The way forward: There is a long and hard road ahead if America and Britain are to begin to make amends with the Arab world (Yasir Suleiman, 3/21/04, Sunday Herald)
After decades of indifference and support for authoritarian rule in the Arab lands, US policy-makers have discovered democracy and embraced it as their ultimate goal for a future Middle East, which, it is hoped, will be more prosperous and more ready to interact peacefully with the West. The American administration has dubbed this vision its Greater Middle East policy, which it intends to present to the G8 summit of industrialised countries in the summer. Democratising the Arab world within a Middle East that has been geo-politically expanded to include Afghanistan and Pakistan is the topic of the hour for most Arabs.There is no doubt that Arabs yearn for a genuine democracy in their countries, but they have responded to the American ideas on democracy, which have been met with traditional political acquiescence from Britain, with a massive dose of cynicism and an impressive array of conspiracy theories. Arabs ask how the Americans and British can be trusted with their future, considering their track record of false promises, brazen disregard for injustice and international legality in Palestine, lies over the weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, and support in the past for those countries whom they have now found wanting?
Mr. Suleiman seems to have entirely missed the point. We've only stepped in because it became blazingly obvious that the Arabs couldn't be trusted with their own future. Somewhat to our discredit, we preferred indifference...until the bombs started going off. Now we're there helping to democratize the region and asking nothing in return.
MORE:
Beginning to Bloom: The British learned in the 1920s that growing democracy in Iraq takes time. But the U.S. effort there is already showing signs of success. (Joel Rayburn, March 21, 2004, LA Times)
A year ago, troops of the U.S.-led coalition moved into Iraq on their way to swiftly defeating Saddam Hussein's armies. Since then, Iraq's journey toward stability and democracy under U.S. tutelage has been painfully slow and difficult. So says a chorus of observers who reflexively transform not-unexpected obstacles to the establishment of an Iraqi government into major roadblocks. Typical was the New York Times' judgment, after reports of a delay in the signing of the interim Iraqi constitution, that the U.S. occupation had failed both to deliver Iraq from "pervasive insecurity" and to devise a "satisfactory formula … for creating the interim government due to assume power July 1." But although the problems confronting the United States and its coalition partners in Iraq are complex, they are not new. The good news is that when measured against the only previous attempt at Iraqi democracy-building — in the 1920s under the British — the current effort compares favorably in virtually every way. [...]Posted by Orrin Judd at March 21, 2004 7:10 PMThe U.S.-led democratization effort in Iraq, then, has been quite successful despite problems, risks and poorly handled situations. Even the Islamist terrorists seem to agree. In a way, their horrific surge of violent attacks against civilian targets last week, from the drive-by shooting of aid workers to the powerful car bomb in Baghdad, is a sign of their desperation and fear that democracy is taking root in Iraq, and that their window for destabilizing the country is closing. The goal of a stable, pluralistic democracy seems reachable — and we've been in Iraq only a year. If the pessimists read some history, they would learn that expectations of a swift conclusion to the Iraqi project are unrealistic and historically naive.
"the only previous attempt at Iraqi democracy-building — in the 1920s under the British"
Boy, have I been misguided. Here I thought the British established a monarchy in the 20's to ensure favorable treatment of British interests in Iraq. Silly me!
Posted by: jd watson at March 21, 2004 9:54 PMNot nothing in return...
The reason that the US is attempting to democratize the region, instead of simply quarantining it, is because we still desire their oil.
It is to our credit that we didn't just kill them all, and sip the oil at our leisure.
As has been said before at this site, if America truly were an Empire, Arabia would be controlled by the US right now.
Instead, OPEC's tightening production again.
Posted by: Michael Herdegen at March 21, 2004 9:56 PMMichael:
We were getting their oil. We would have gotten Kuwait's oil even if Saddam got Kuwait. Oil exists to be sold to us.
Posted by: oj at March 21, 2004 11:17 PMThe US is doing what it's doing simply and solely because Arabs are incapable of ruling themselves, and the US sees no benefit to herself for doing such ?
Americans must be the most noble people on Earth.
Oh, wait, we are. So much for sarcasm.
Nonetheless, we're not involved in the Middle East so we can feel good about ourselves.
Posted by: Michael Herdegen at March 22, 2004 5:29 AMNo, we're there because God requires it of us.
Posted by: oj at March 22, 2004 8:31 AM...and to make sure the resident loons are fewer in number, and have a much harder time organizing to kill us all.
Posted by: Chris at March 22, 2004 10:56 AMAmerica doesn't give a rat's patootie if the Arabs have democracy or not. We more-or-less believe that every people has the right to have whatever system of government & freedom--or lack thereof--that they want.
What America DOES care about is when other people decide to kill Americans. And we'll take whatever steps are neccessary to stop them from doing so. If that means we have to force democracy & freedom down their throats--so much the better.
Posted by: fred at March 22, 2004 2:35 PMAmerica doesn't give a rat's patootie if the Arabs have democracy or not. We more-or-less believe that every people has the right to have whatever system of government & freedom--or lack thereof--that they want.
What America DOES care about is when other people decide to kill Americans. And we'll take whatever steps are neccessary to stop them from doing so. If that means we have to force democracy & freedom down their throats--so much the better.
Posted by: fred at March 22, 2004 2:36 PMAmerica doesn't give a rat's patootie if the Arabs have democracy or not. We more-or-less believe that every people has the right to have whatever system of government & freedom--or lack thereof--that they want.
What America DOES care about is when other people decide to kill Americans. And we'll take whatever steps are neccessary to stop them from doing so. If that means we have to force democracy & freedom down their throats--so much the better.
Posted by: fred at March 22, 2004 2:38 PMWell, fred already said it three times, but let me say it a fourth.
We don't give a rat's patootie about how other people misgovern themselves.
Posted by: Harry Eagar at March 22, 2004 4:25 PMWell, we care a little bit, as Bosnia, Kosovo, Somalia, Haiti and Iraq show.
The cost of intervention will decrease, due to the accelerating gap between America's power, (military and economic), and the rest of the world's, and also due to the rise of the machines.
(Uncrewed and remotely crewed vehicles).
As the cost decreases, the amount of intervention (or meddling) will increase.
Posted by: Michael Herdegen at March 22, 2004 5:40 PMThen why are we in Iraq?
Posted by: oj at March 22, 2004 8:20 PM