February 7, 2004
THEY'RE STEALING COMBAT JOBS TOO:
Illegal immigrant who fought in Iraq to try for citizenship (THE ASSOCIATED PRESS, 2/07/04)
An illegal immigrant from Seattle who risked his life as an American soldier in Iraq may become a U.S. citizen next week.Posted by Orrin Judd at February 7, 2004 3:55 PMPfc. Juan Escalante, who enlisted in the Army by showing a fake green card he bought for $50, could take his citizenship oath in Seattle on Wednesday.
"I feel great," Escalante said. "This is what I've been looking for ever since my parents told me I was illegal."
The Army said it helped him pursue citizenship because he was a valuable soldier who would do the country more good as a citizen than as a deported immigrant.
President Bush signed an executive order on July 3, 2002, speeding up the citizenship process for active-duty members of the military. Under the order, Escalante would avoid having to get a green card before seeking citizenship.
Illegal or not, THIS is the kind of immigrant we desire.
Posted by: ray at February 7, 2004 5:04 PMThis is a perfect way to become a citizen. Better than being born here.
However I react somewhat negatively to your snide remark at the top that relates this incident to previous arguments on this blog about the unwillingness of our government to enforce the laws on immigration. The American Military has taken non-citizens since at least the Vietnam war. I went thru basic training in 1967 with 4 men from Peru and they all signed up with the understanding that they would become citizens if they learned English and served honorably. Later I served in units with Mexicans and Guatemalans.
My presumption is that our government made a decision (one that they could legally make) that they wanted these people to be citizens.
As regards todays illegal immigration, our government officials have decided to look the other way because it was easier politically.
Posted by: h-man at February 7, 2004 8:16 PMBecause, as with all grunt labor in our society, we need them to do it.
Posted by: oj at February 7, 2004 8:26 PMTranslation: like the Romans, we may need a mercenary army.
Posted by: Paul Cella at February 8, 2004 9:20 AMNo, a draft.
Posted by: oj at February 8, 2004 9:52 AMNo, not a draft. Unless, of course, you want to destroy the effectiveness of the US military.
Posted by: Jeff Guinn at February 8, 2004 5:47 PMIt'sa miracle they won WWII.
Posted by: oj at February 8, 2004 6:15 PMOur AVF is one substantial reason we don't have to worry about fighting another WWII.
I joined the AF while there were still draftees in the ranks. I saw the astonishing difference in professionalism over the years first hand.
Posted by: Jeff Guinn at February 9, 2004 9:16 PMNukes are why we don't have to worry about WWII.
Posted by: oj at February 9, 2004 9:28 PMWrong. Not having anything like a peer competitor is why we don't have to worry about another WWII. And nukes aren't the reason we don't have one to worry about.
There a more than one reason for that (economy, technology are others), but you can have all of those you want, and still blow it because the military can treat its soldiers like indentured servants.
But why listen to me. After all, I only have first hand experience to go on.
Posted by: Jeff Guinn at February 10, 2004 6:48 PMSo does John Kerry and he's always wrong.
Posted by: oj at February 10, 2004 8:27 PMWell, in this case, you are wrong. If you want to greatly reduce the effectiveness of the US military, then reinstate the draft.
It makes no more sense than forcing a team that has the ability to pick from those who want to be members to suddenly be required to eliminate all standards of motivation and ability.
Say goodbye to unit cohesion, say hello to entrenched, huge, repetitive, training costs. Among other things.
When warfare required mass concentrations of soldiers, the costs of a draft could be justified. But to impose a draft on the modern US military would be a gross error.
Posted by: Jeff Guinn at February 10, 2004 10:09 PMExcept that we don't need them to be terribly good, because the enemies aremn't, but we may need more infantry for Korea, Pakistan, etc.
Posted by: oj at February 10, 2004 10:38 PMThat's true only if you are foolish enough to fight symmetric warfare, and don't mind unnecessary losses.
Otherwise, we them to be the best they can possibly be, which means imposing a draft upon the military would verge on treason.
Posted by: Jeff Guinn at February 11, 2004 5:16 PMHang me.
Posted by: oj at February 11, 2004 5:28 PM