April 8, 2003

THE SKULL STACKER:

The Reason Why (GEORGE MCGOVERN, April 21, 2003, The Nation)
I most certainly do not see God at work in the slaughter and destruction now unfolding in Iraq or in the war plans now being developed for additional American invasions of other lands. The hand of the Devil? Perhaps. But how can I suggest that a fellow Methodist with a good Methodist wife is getting guidance from the Devil? I don't want to get too self-righteous about all of this. After all, I have passed the 80 mark, so I don't want to set the bar of acceptable behavior too high lest I fail to meet the standard for a passing grade on Judgment Day. I've already got a long list of strikes against me. So President Bush, forgive me if I've been too tough on you. But I must tell you, Mr. President, you are the greatest threat to American troops. Only you can put our young people in harm's way in a needless war. Only you can weaken America's good name and influence in world affairs.

We hear much talk these days, as we did during the Vietnam War, of "supporting our troops." Like most Americans, I have always supported our troops, and I have always believed we had the best fighting forces in the world--with the possible exception of the Vietnamese, who were fortified by their hunger for national independence, whereas we placed our troops in the impossible position of opposing an independent Vietnam, albeit a Communist one. But I believed then as I do now that the best way to support our troops is to avoid sending them on mistaken military campaigns that needlessly endanger their lives and limbs. That is what went on in Vietnam for nearly thirty years--first as we financed the French in their failing effort to regain control of their colonial empire in Southeast Asia, 1946-54, and then for the next twenty years as we sought unsuccessfully to stop the Vietnamese independence struggle led by Ho Chi Minh and Gen. Vo Nguyen Giap--two great men whom we should have accepted as the legitimate leaders of Vietnam at the end of World War II. I should add that Ho and his men were our allies against the Japanese in World War II. Some of my fellow pilots who were shot down by Japanese gunners over Vietnam were brought safely back to American lines by Ho's guerrilla forces.

During the long years of my opposition to that war, including a presidential campaign dedicated to ending the American involvement, I said in a moment of disgust: "I'm sick and tired of old men dreaming up wars in which young men do the dying." That terrible American blunder, in which 58,000 of our bravest young men died, and many times that number were crippled physically or psychologically, also cost the lives of some 2 million Vietnamese as well as a similar number of Cambodians and Laotians, in addition to laying waste most of Indochina--its villages, fields, trees and waterways; its schools, churches, markets and hospitals.

I had thought after that horrible tragedy--sold to the American people by our policy-makers as a mission of freedom and mercy--that we never again would carry out a needless, ill-conceived invasion of another country that had done us no harm and posed no threat to our security. I was wrong in that assumption. [...]

The destruction of Baghdad has a special poignancy for many of us. In my fourth-grade geography class under a superb teacher, Miss Wagner, I was first introduced to the Tigris and Euphrates rivers, the palm trees and dates, the kayaks plying the rivers, camel caravans and desert oases, the Arabian Nights, Aladdin and His Wonderful Lamp (my first movie), the ancient city of Baghdad, Mesopotamia, the Fertile Crescent. This was the first class in elementary school that fired my imagination. Those wondrous images have stayed with me for more than seventy years. And it now troubles me to hear of America's bombs, missiles and military machines ravishing the cradle of civilization.

But in God's good time, perhaps this most ancient of civilizations can be redeemed. My prayer is that most of our soldiers and most of the long-suffering people of Iraq will survive this war after it has joined the historical march of folly that is man's inhumanity to man.


Speaking of the Vietnam era and man's inhumanity to man, here's what Mr. McGovern had to say about the relative merits of America vs. the Khmer Rouge:
The growing hysteria of the administration's posture on Cambodia seems to me to reflect a determined refusal to consider what the fall of the existing government in Phnom Penh would actually mean.... We should be able to see that the kind of government which would succeed Lon Nol's forces would most likely be a government ... run by some of the best-educated, most able intellectuals in Cambodia.

As he sided with evil then, so he sides with evil now.
Posted by Orrin Judd at April 8, 2003 5:34 PM
Comments

That first essay, purportedly from George McGovern, is satire, right? No one could literally have slept through the last thirty years.

Posted by: David Cohen at April 8, 2003 6:51 PM

"And it now troubles me to hear of America's bombs, missiles and military machines ravishing the cradle of civilization. "



The idea of it being ruled and ravaged by a tyrant, of course, didn't trouble him in the least.

Posted by: Timothy at April 8, 2003 7:20 PM

I'd say if America's purpose was ravishment, taxpayers should demand to know why such a poor job was being done.



These attempt to paint Dubya as Hulegu Khan Version 2 show a disconect from reality that is quite disturbing coming from an adult.



Off-topic I just saw Equilibrium another fine conservative sci-fi movie oj would do well to review.

Posted by: M Ali Choudhury at April 8, 2003 8:01 PM

Ali:



Who's in it?

Posted by: oj at April 8, 2003 8:11 PM

Christian Bale.



It's pretty derivative of 1984, Farenheit 451 and the Matrix for its action sequences but has a pretty good depiction of a nightmarish, totalitarian police-state.

Posted by: M Ali Choudhury at April 8, 2003 8:54 PM

Ali:



Wow, reviews are surprisingly good:

">http://www.mrqe.com/lookup?isindex=equilibrium




Though, as always, James Bowman is devastating:

http://www.jamesbowman.net/reviewDetail.asp?pubID=1304

Posted by: oj at April 8, 2003 11:17 PM

Would George M. have supported a well-conceived war?



This one was splendidly conceived, as wars go.

Posted by: Harry Eagar at April 8, 2003 11:45 PM

The fact that McGovern was a liberal

ex college professor, who must have

had some inkling of the FirstIndochina

war, yet voted for the Gulf of Tonkin resolution; then turned around to the

point that 8 years later, he was using

the 'regime change' trope against Nixon, is a case study in delusion

Posted by: narciso at April 9, 2003 1:22 AM

oj: Bowman thought Blackhawk Down (a pretty empty shoot 'em-up) was a better movie than either Signs or Fellowship of the Ring.

Posted by: M Ali Choudhury at April 9, 2003 4:22 AM

I liked all three.

Posted by: oj at April 9, 2003 7:50 AM

George McGovern is making it too easy. The failure of the left to make distinctions

(discriminations?) is, in his case reaching the point of absurdity. I think I know what's going on in his mind, (everybody is as kind and wonderful a human being as I am, no matter how misunderstood, I know they mean well because I mean well). If only it were true. By the way, what is so "liberal" about such naivety?

Posted by: Tom C., Stamford, Ct. at April 9, 2003 11:42 AM

A view of the "world of the mind." Beam him up Scottie.

Posted by: genecis at April 9, 2003 11:46 AM

Orrin--do you have a link to the McGovern essay? I thought that passage was Schanberg's.



BTW, my Hmong girlfriend got a hell of a shock from this post. Revolting.

Posted by: Brian (MN) at April 9, 2003 11:53 AM

Oh, I mean the part about Cambodia.

Posted by: Brian (MN) at April 9, 2003 11:53 AM

genecis: Don't get it. Enlighten me please.

Posted by: Tom C., Stamford, Ct. at April 9, 2003 11:56 AM

Brian:



Schanberg quoted McGovern in the book as I recall, though my memory is notoriously sketchy.

Posted by: oj at April 9, 2003 2:01 PM

In which we find this gem:



"In the news columns of The New York Times, the celebrated Sydney Schanberg wrote of Cambodians that ''it is difficult to imagine how their lives could be anything but better with the Americans gone.''"

Posted by: oj at April 9, 2003 2:05 PM

Thanks OJ!

Posted by: Brian (MN) at April 9, 2003 3:18 PM
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