November 21, 2002
SWEET DREAMS ARE MADE OF THESE:
Dino Hoax Was Mainly Made of Ancient Bird, Study Says
(Hillary Mayell, November 20, 2002, National Geographic News)
The principal part of a famously fabricated dinosaur fossil is an ancient fish-eating bird, scientists report.Piltdown Man
The Archaeoraptor fossil was introduced in 1999 and hailed as the missing evolutionary link between carnivorous dinosaurs and modern birds. It was fairly quickly exposed as bogus, a composite containing the head and body of a primitive bird and the tail and hind limbs of a dromaeosaur dinosaur, glued together by a Chinese farmer.
Initial CT scans suggested that the fossil might have been made up of anywhere from two to five specimens of two or more species. Chinese and American scientists now report that the fabricated fossil is made up of two species.
The Archaeoraptor fossil introduced in 1999 as the missing evolutionarylink between carnivorous dinosaurs and modern birds turned out to be a composite of two different species previously unknown to scientists. The tail and hind legs belong to a crow-sized dinosaur, Microraptorzhaoianus; the head and body belong to a fish-eating bird known as Yanornis martini.
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. The skeptic can't help but be amused as the textbook examples of evolution turn out to be hoaxes, the evolutionary equivalent of the shroud of Turin, clung to with similar fervor by credulous Darwinian zealots.
Posted by Orrin Judd at November 21, 2002 9:03 AM
OJ: are you mistakenly conflating Archaeoraptor and Archaeopteryx in your comments, or did you just not read far enough down in your link to the Archaeopteryx article to see that it has been conclusively proven NOT to be a fake?
Piltdown Man and Archaeoraptor were both artificially cobbled together, and quickly proven to be so--by the very scientific community you so consistently deride (believe it or not, science has a vested interest in detecting and exposing this kind of fakery). But hundreds of other perfectly legitimate fossils strongly indicative of transitional species survive. We have entire sequences to support the evolution of horses and whales, birds, and yes, even humans.
Even other non-transitional fossils support the concept of evolution. Or at least, to explain them without evolution, you have to be willing to believe that someone or something has intervened millions of times over the last four billion years to create a new species, only to capriciously wipe it out a few million years later. That idea, which I now dub the "Cosmic Etch-a-Sketch Operator Theory of Species Origination and Elimination" seems a bit overwrought, don't you think?
Harry beat me to it. Archaeoraptor was indeed a hoax. Archaeopteryx is still considered genuine.
The review in the Guardian refers to doubts about previous Archaeopteryx finds.
Read paragraph 5 of the review to which you refer.
No respectable opinion doubts Archeopteryx.
There has been plenty of debate about just
what it said about evolution, and there was
room for debate as long as only a few fossils
were known. More and older are now known
and A. is not so important any more.
It was the same with hominid fossils. When
there were only a handful, it was easy to
construct scenarios and not easy to decide
among them. As more evidence accumulated,
various hyotheses had to be discarded.
There still remain more than one, but that fact
does not discredit darwinism. Rather, it
adds to its firmness.
If someone came up with a genuine fossil
that contradicted darwinism, that would be a
sensation. But the nominees, like Paluxy, are
never more than hoaxes, and they are
adopted one after another by antidarwinists
only to explode in their hands. Who's gullible?
Yes, I know the biologists insist their case is proven, but I'll stick with the physicists.
OJ: "I'll stick with the physicists. "
Um, what physicists, nowadays?
"... even as late as the 1970s
some scientists, notably Chandra Wickramasinghe and the late Sir Fred Hoyle, two physicists renowned for their wacky understanding of evolution, were inclined to think the same."