January 13, 2005
POOR EVOLUTION
Men Just Want Mommy (Maureen Dowd, NY Times, 1/13/05)
A new study by psychology researchers at the University of Michigan, using college undergraduates, suggests that men going for long-term relationships would rather marry women in subordinate jobs than women who are supervisors.Taking as a given that a Maureen Dowd column is going to be drek informed solely by whatever happens to be going on in the life of one whiny woman, this is still particularly dense. Without committing the BrothersJudd blasphemy of saying something nice about evolution, perhaps we can think of some other possible explanation for why men might, all other things being equal, prefer women who are not single-mindedly devoted to their careers. And, for that matter, why does she feel compelled to call our mothers stupid? It really is true that the left loves humanity, but doesn't like people all that much.As Dr. Stephanie Brown, the lead author of the study, summed it up for reporters: "Powerful women are at a disadvantage in the marriage market because men may prefer to marry less-accomplished women." Men think that women with important jobs are more likely to cheat on them.
"The hypothesis," Dr. Brown said, "is that there are evolutionary pressures on males to take steps to minimize the risk of raising offspring that are not their own." Women, by contrast, did not show a marked difference in their attraction to men who might work above or below them. And men did not show a preference when it came to one-night stands.
A second study, which was by researchers at four British universities and reported last week, suggested that smart men with demanding jobs would rather have old-fashioned wives, like their mums, than equals. The study found that a high I.Q. hampers a woman's chance to get married, while it is a plus for men. The prospect for marriage increased by 35 percent for guys for each 16-point increase in I.Q.; for women, there is a 40 percent drop for each 16-point rise.
(I do need to confess a bias: if there is an evolutionary push to marry dumb servile women, then I'm a sport and should be culled.)
Posted by David Cohen at January 13, 2005 10:56 AMI tend to prefer pushy broads that challenge my assumptions and aren't afraid to call me a dope if I'm acting like one. Maybe that means I'm a latent homosexual (like Orrin), but somehow I don't think so.
Posted by: Governor Breck at January 13, 2005 12:08 PMLatent?
Posted by: at January 13, 2005 12:19 PMMy heart goes out to menopausal spinsters. I know I don't show my softer caring side at this blog very often, but it brings tears to my eyes, to watch them slowly shrivel and become harden stones, repulsive to look at.. well you get the idea.
Posted by: h-man at January 13, 2005 12:26 PMdrek informed solely by whatever happens to be going on in the life of one whiny woman
Sure, but you left out the requirement for cute wordplay. She's built entire columns around clever phrases, regardless of how well they actually fit the real circumstances she was attempting (ah, or perhaps pretending) to comment on.
I don't know if this proves or disproves the point, but both of my high IQ sons married women whose IQ's are decidedly lower than their own and that of their mother, me. One stays home and is a mom, the other aspires far above her abilibies and not surprisingly hasn't made much of a mark in the world.
Are either happy with their choice? I really don't know, but their children are gorgeous, talented and brilliant, and that's enough for me.
Posted by: erp at January 13, 2005 01:21 PMBefore the snide remarks about the high IQ mom and her grammar, spelling and typing, see above. I had surgery on my right hand and am typing lefty.
Posted by: erp at January 13, 2005 01:25 PMMaureen Dowd is obviously trying to explain to family why she isn't married yet and why there's no hope on the horizon.
Intelligent men want to date and procreate with intelligent women. They also understand that after you've finished with the sex, and you've gotten older that you're stuck with each other so you better be able to communicate on some level. The only women I date are fellow Mensans or have graduate degrees in the sciences or serious business fields like accounting or finance.
If I'm any indication, what intelligent, educated men do not want is a harridan, someone hyper-critical and hyper-sensitive all at the same time, who can dish it out but can't take it. The modern workplace is flooded with them, obnoxious women who think their you-know-what does not stink and that they are better than any man when in fact for the most part they wouldn't be out of the secretarial pool if it weren't for quotas. when you come home you really don't need it in your off-hours, it's much better to just pop open a beer and watch the Simpsons.
Posted by: Bart at January 13, 2005 02:02 PMWell, she's not too bitter...
I'm not a guy, but I would think that one part of the equation is that it's really great to have one parent home with the kids and that's a lot less likely with 2 high-power career people. That's why I married down, er , rather a non-high-power career oriented person...
Dowd judges the feminist movement by a decidedly un-feminist criterion, as though its goal were to turn her into a dude-magnet. By that standard, yes, it may just be a cruel hoax.
Posted by: E Rey at January 13, 2005 02:48 PMDowdy should start checking out the lefty bloggers. Many of them are undoubtedly smarter than she is.
Posted by: jim hamlen at January 13, 2005 02:56 PM"Powerful women are at a disadvantage in the marriage market because men may prefer to marry less-accomplished women."
I think Ms. Dowd and Dr. Steph might ponder why many men avoid women who think "powerful" and "less-accomplished" are antonyms.
Posted by: Peter B at January 13, 2005 03:17 PMI would like to know why anyone would want to take the bait and get involved with a woman who complained that she was still paying off the expensive Christmas gifts she bought for all the men she was dating who married someone else. Sounds like she should try to figure why they all left her after the gifts. Calling Michael Douglas.
Posted by: dick at January 13, 2005 04:44 PMWomen, by contrast, did not show a marked difference in their attraction to men who might work above or below them.
Hogwash. It has long since been proven that women prefer to marry up. Unfortunately for powerful, wordly-successful women, they reflexively limit themselves to a very small part of the male population.
Take a look at who some leading feminists have married--they all showed a distinct preference for men "above" them.
Posted by: Jeff Guinn at January 13, 2005 06:54 PMI still hold to my theory about Maureen from four years ago -- a huge amount of her blind hostility to Bush stems as much from his refusal to continue to have the White House serve as "Washington Celebrity Central" as it does with Bush's actual political policies.
Her hayday during the second Clinton term was due to her ability to mix celebrity names and pop-culture refrences into her columns to explain things in D.C., which worked for the time because Bill Clinton was as much into celebrity worship and pop culture as MoDo is. Even before Sept. 11 Bush didn't play that celebrity worship game, unless you want to count big names that would be of more interest to the New York Times' sports department than to Maureen or the Arts and Leisure section. And Mo's heart isn't going to go pitter-patter if Curt Shilling and the Boston Red Sox show up in the Rose Garden.
Dulling down the D.C. social scene by Bush is as much of a crime against humanity to Ms. Dowd as any invasion or Iraq or Social Security reform plan could ever be. Her columns next week on the plain vanilla inauguration events and parties are going to be scathing from a woman seeking to recapture the highs she got from dating Michael Douglas back in the 1990s and feeling that even though she was living in the nation's capital, she was a part of the Hollywood scene.
Posted by: John at January 13, 2005 08:37 PMCan anyone imagine a worse fate than being married to Maureen O'Dowd?
Posted by: Josh Silverman at January 13, 2005 09:02 PMJosh:
Hillary. All the downside, and no compensating arm-candy effect.
Posted by: Jeff Guinn at January 14, 2005 09:33 AM