September 28, 2006


Boys told no standing to urinate (World Net Daily, September 28, 2006)

It's an entirely new definition of "Standing Room Only." Or perhaps a new measure of "equality" has arrived.

Whatever it is, it has sparked a huge political debate at a school in Kristiansand, Norway, according to Aftenposten.

The trigger for the explosion of opinion? A decision in the local district that schoolboys must sit on toilet seats when urinating, not stand.

Posted by Orrin Judd at September 28, 2006 8:52 AM

Oh stop whining and take your Ritalin.

Isn't it a hoot when the ladies demand co-ed facilities in the name of equality and then complain that boys are icky?

Posted by: Peter B at September 28, 2006 9:01 AM

I've told the story before about being in an Employment Law class with mostly women and a few Leftie guys discussing the topic of drug testing. They prattled on for a while about how invasive to our privacy it is to be observed urinating. I asked if any of them had ever been in the men's rooms at Fenway, where throngs of men pee into troughs and try not to splash on each other overmuch. They couldn't have squealed more if a mouse had run across the floor....

Posted by: oj at September 28, 2006 9:10 AM

This could set up a major conflict between school officials and envorinmentalists, since water usage is far higher from having to flush a toilet than it is a urinal (and many new buildings now install waterless urinals to even further cut down on the use of valuable drinking water for, ahem, less important assignments).

Posted by: John at September 28, 2006 9:25 AM

The Germans even have a word for it: Sitzpinkler. Not used as a compliment.

Posted by: Daran at September 28, 2006 10:03 AM

In preschool, my teacher made boys share the toilets whilst tinkling. There began my lifelong aversion to public toilets.

Posted by: RC at September 28, 2006 3:05 PM

Not that I agree with the decision but boys have notorious aim when standing. They better have auto-flush toilets b/c they don't flush either.

Posted by: Bartman at September 28, 2006 4:13 PM

Which is why bathrooms have tile floors, not carpeting.

Posted by: oj at September 28, 2006 5:56 PM


I can't speak for Fenway, but at the football stadium in Lincoln everyone stares straight ahead and generally pretends nobody else is there, which appears to be standard procedure in places with the "troughs." There's at least an effort to maintain some shred of privacy, however phony. Any direct and sustained observation of the proceedings is strictly prohibited by male courtesy.

Posted by: Matt Murphy at September 29, 2006 6:23 PM


Which is to say, it's different from the sort of drug test where somebody is directly observing you. The objection to it on "privacy" grounds is still overdone, of course.

Posted by: Matt Murphy at September 29, 2006 7:46 PM

I used the same argument in my moot court finals at law school and it turned around the judges who had been leaning toward my opponent....

Posted by: Foos at September 30, 2006 12:05 AM

To John who is worried that there'll be a clash with enviromentalists: There aren't any urinals at the school, so it's not about flushing or not. Standard bowl, and most likely boys will flush whether they stand or sit. :-)

Posted by: Peter N at October 2, 2006 1:08 AM


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