July 7, 2006


RELIGION IN THE PUBLIC SQUARE (Kevin Drum, 5 July 2006, Washington Monthly Blog)

The reaction among liberals to Barack Obama's recent speech about religion in public life (text here) has largely been a complaint that he's attacking a straw man. Actual Democratic politicians — governors, senators, members of congress — never disparage religion, after all. In fact, they're never anything but respectful toward it. So what is Obama complaining about?...
It's obviously possible to disagree with Obama. Frankly, I'd have to discuss a few specific examples with him to see if I think he's on the right page. But the plain fact is that he was careful in his speech and also plainly correct: "some" liberals are uncomfortable with any mention of religion in the public square, and he thinks this is too bad...
It's a funny thing. When I post about religion, I usually get two kinds of comments. The first is people telling me that I'm falling into a conservative trap by even entertaining the idea that some liberals are contemptuous toward religion. The second is snarky liberal secularists telling everyone else to take their stupid myths and shove 'em where the sun don't shine. Do you think both sides will show up in this thread as well?

To quote Manolo, this piece and the subsequent comments are Super-Fantastic! It is apparently a common belief on the Left that they are quite solicitious of religion and the religious. After all, their pols never have a bad thing to say about religion or the religious in public.

MORE (Via Tom Morin):
Exclusive Poll Info: Democrats Devolve Deeper into an Anti-Christian Party (Patrick Hynes, 6 July 2006, Ankle Biting Pundits)

The headlines covering the Los Angeles Times/Bloomberg poll, which was conducted in late-June, focused largely on the troubling statistic that revealed 35% of respondents would not vote for a Mormon for President of the United States. Religious bigotry, while a shadow of its former self, still lurks around electoral corners.
But as if that information were not disturbing enough, some statistics from the same poll have received less attention but appear nevertheless to invalidate the American Left’s affectations of religious tolerance and pious political correctness. The following data has not yet been published in the mainstream media–but could have explosive repercussions on the 2006 elections.
According to cross-tabulated data I have received from Bloomberg, 37% of self-identified liberals say they would vote against an evangelical Christian candidate for president; 38% of self-identified liberal Democrats would do so. Democrats as a whole are significantly more likely to vote against an evangelical Christian candidate for president–over a quarter (28%)–than either Republican or Independent voters. And barely a majority (53%) of all Democrats would vote for an evangelical candidate for president.
This new information could not come at a worse time for Democrat politicians. Since their 2004 electoral drubbing, some Democrats have initiated a campaign to win the hearts and minds of America's faithful. Perhaps they should start by opening the hearts and minds of their own political supporters.

Posted by Pepys at July 7, 2006 11:48 PM

I guess Kevin Drum has never heard of Howard Dean. Or Gavin Newsom.

Posted by: jim hamlen at July 8, 2006 9:28 AM

In a way, it would be interesting to see Mitt Romney get the GOP presidential nomination, in order to watch the reaction of both the Democrats and the big media outlets in attempting to show why a man elected governor of not-quite-red-state of Massachusetts is tied to too dangerous a religion to be elected president. Lots of Democratic speechefying about Mormons' hostility towards women, and lots of TV and print reports about Mormon polygamous cult leaders, along with a move-of-week or two in the same vein during the fall '08 election.

Posted by: John at July 8, 2006 11:29 AM

Romney may be a good man and take all the right positions on the issues, but he doesn't seem to have any sense of humor.

Posted by: erp at July 8, 2006 5:36 PM

Just one more sign, like the Kurlansky article excerpted below, that the left is getting ready to abandon democracy in America.

Posted by: David Cohen at July 8, 2006 7:10 PM