July 25, 2006
JUST ANOTHER POLITICAL PARTY:
Gaza groups ready to deal on cease-fire, release of Shalit (Avi Issacharoff, 7/25/06, Haaretz)
All groups in Gaza, including Hamas, would now accept a cease-fire deal with Israel which would include releasing Gilad Shalit, according to the Palestinian Agriculture Minister, who also heads the coordinating committee of Palestinian organizations there.Posted by Orrin Judd at July 25, 2006 10:51 AMIbrahim Al-Naja said the factions were ready to stop the Qassam rocket fire if Israel's ceased all military moves against the Palestinian factions in Gaza. They are also ready to release Shalit in exchange for guaranteeing the future release of Palestinian prisoners.
Hamas leaders did not confirm this report on Monday, but if it is true, then this is the first time that Hamas has indicated its acceptance of the Egyptian proposal to solve the crisis.
"JUST ANOTHER POLITICAL PARTY"
My sentiments exactly. Now tell me when Republicans can start sending missles into Democratic precincts.
Posted by: h-man at July 25, 2006 11:28 AMAgain? Didn't the Civil War sate your blood lust?
Posted by: oj at July 25, 2006 11:31 AMI've been actively supporting Israel since, it almost seems biblical times, and if they blow it again, they'll have lost me for good.
No more talk. Time to eliminate the killers and the regimes harboring them.
Posted by: erp at July 25, 2006 11:32 AMBeating your head against a brick wall -- or in this case, an IDF tank -- long enough may make enough people in Hamas and the Palestinians they are supposed to represent comprehend that the two-state solution the Israelis have imposed makes their old tactics during the Intifada far less viable. Running their own country and attacking Israeli allows the IDF to come in and take care of the problem, under the right of self-defense, and Israeli's critics can no longer attack it by saying they are repressing their own people, leaving them with the option of saying Israel has no right to defend itself (a position only those on the far left in the west are willing to take right now). Hamas' willingness to take the Egyptian offer shows reality may finally be dawning on them.
The Hezbollah situation is a little different, since they are not officially in charge of Lebanon, even though their the de facto rulers of the southern part of the country. But as long as the actual Lebanese government refuses to do what King Hussein did to Arafat and the PLO in 1970, Israel can do what it wants until Hezbollah either takes the hint or the other factions in Beiruit decide to finally put their own house in order.
Posted by: John at July 25, 2006 1:07 PM"...They are also ready to release Shalit in exchange for guaranteeing the future release of Palestinian prisoners."
If that guarantee was made, wouldn't that make the kidnapping the Israelis a valid form of Palestinian political expression?
Posted by: Just John at July 25, 2006 1:40 PMIf they can get Shalit back in exchange for a ceasefire, why wouldn't they do it? It's a clear win for Israel. They can always start the shooting again if Hamas commits more infractions, and they save Shalit.
Returning Palestinian prisoners is more problematic. I would insist on Shalit back for a ceasefire. No other conditions.
Posted by: pj at July 25, 2006 2:16 PMRoutine - So are murders in Detroit and D.C.
Posted by: obc at July 25, 2006 2:18 PMYes, if we didn't prosecute murder there'd be more of it.
Posted by: oj at July 25, 2006 2:54 PMSo we should adopt the Clinton & DemoRat Party's policy of prosecuting terrorists instead of killing them?
Posted by: obc at July 25, 2006 3:03 PMThe Israelis should go to Damascus and then turn left and clean out the Bekaa Valley. No more negotiation, no more half-measures. Set the pace, as it were.
It's already just a one-front war, because the Palis evidently know when to quit.
Posted by: ratbert at July 25, 2006 3:13 PMThere's no front in Lebanon.
Posted by: oj at July 25, 2006 3:35 PMOf course not, but 10 days ago, both Hamas and Hezbollah thought there was. And they thought they could keep it that way.
President Bush should tell the Israelis to do whatever they need to do. We should begin covertly killing as many Syrian troops and agents on the Iraqi border as possible. Then the IDF can free Damascus. The panic among the mullahs and goons in Tehran will be palpable.
The panic in the UN will be the same. Don Kofi might even be forced to go in hiding to avoid attacking Israel on live TV.
Posted by: ratbert at July 25, 2006 10:38 PM