November 27, 2005


The Iraq story: how troops see it (Mark Sappenfield, 11/28/05, The Christian Science Monitor)

[T]he Iraq of Corporal Mayer's memory is not solely a place of death and loss. It is also a place of hope. It is the hope of the town of Hit, which he saw transform from an insurgent stronghold to a place where kids played on Marine trucks. It is the hope of villagers who whispered where roadside bombs were hidden. But most of all, it is the hope he saw in a young Iraqi girl who loved pens and Oreo cookies.

Like many soldiers and marines returning from Iraq, Mayer looks at the bleak portrayal of the war at home with perplexity - if not annoyance. It is a perception gap that has put the military and media at odds, as troops complain that the media care only about death tolls, while the media counter that their job is to look at the broader picture, not through the soda straw of troops' individual experiences.

Yet as perceptions about Iraq have neared a tipping point in Congress, some soldiers and marines worry that their own stories are being lost in the cacophony of terror and fear.

...he's given us Hoover's economy and LBJ's war.

Posted by Orrin Judd at November 27, 2005 7:09 PM

Perhaps I've missed it, where has the media attempted to portray the bigger picture?

Posted by: andrew at November 27, 2005 8:35 PM

You left out Nixon's corrupt White House, which can now be added to the list since "Scooter" Libby's indictment is just the beginning...

Posted by: Raoul Ortega at November 27, 2005 9:55 PM

Scooter is one indictment. Any other Bush appointees indicted?

I'm sure someone's done a count of the number of Clinton people who were indicted in the first five years of his presidency.

Posted by: Steve White at November 28, 2005 1:18 AM

The Clinton Legacy -


- The only president ever impeached on grounds of personal malfeasance
- Most number of convictions and guilty pleas by friends and associates
- Most number of cabinet officials to come under criminal investigation
- Most number of witnesses to flee country or refuse to testify
- Most number of witnesses to die suddenly [...]

47 individuals and businesses associated with Clinton were convicted of or pleaded guilty to crimes [...] There were in addition 61 indictments or misdemeanor charges. 14 persons were imprisoned. [...]


- Number of Starr-Ray investigation convictions or guilty pleas (including one governor, one associate attorney general and two Clinton business partners): 14
- Number of Clinton Cabinet members who came under criminal investigation: 5
- Number of Reagan cabinet members who came under criminal investigation: 4
- Number of top officials jailed in the Teapot Dome Scandal: 3 [...]

- Number of congressional witnesses who have pleaded the Fifth Amendment, fled the country to avoid testifying, or (in the case of foreign witnesses) refused to be interviewed: 122 [...]


Drug trafficking (3), racketeering, extortion, bribery (4), tax evasion, kickbacks, embezzlement (2), fraud (12), conspiracy (5), fraudulent loans, illegal gifts (1), illegal campaign contributions (5), money laundering (6), perjury, obstruction of justice.


Bank and mail fraud, violations of campaign finance laws, illegal foreign campaign funding, improper exports of sensitive technology, physical violence and threats of violence, solicitation of perjury, intimidation of witnesses, bribery of witnesses, attempted intimidation of prosecutors, perjury before congressional committees, lying in statements to federal investigators and regulatory officials, flight of witnesses, obstruction of justice, bribery of cabinet members, real estate fraud, tax fraud, drug trafficking, failure to investigate drug trafficking, bribery of state officials, use of state police for personal purposes, exchange of promotions or benefits for sexual favors, using state police to provide false court testimony, laundering of drug money through a state agency, false reports by medical examiners and others investigating suspicious deaths, the firing of the RTC and FBI director when these agencies were investigating Clinton and his associates, failure to conduct autopsies in suspicious deaths, providing jobs in return for silence by witnesses, drug abuse, improper acquisition and use of 900 FBI files, improper futures trading, murder, sexual abuse of employees, false testimony before a federal judge, shredding of documents, withholding and concealment of subpoenaed documents, fabricated charges against (and improper firing of) White House employees, inviting drug traffickers, foreign agents and participants in organized crime to the White House.


Number of times that Clinton figures who testified in court or before Congress said that they didn't remember, didn't know, or something similar.

Bill Kennedy 116
Harold Ickes 148
Ricki Seidman 160
Bruce Lindsey 161
Bill Burton 191
Mark Gearan 221
Mack McLarty 233
Neil Egglseston 250
Hillary Clinton 250
John Podesta 264
Jennifer O'Connor 343
Dwight Holton 348
Patsy Thomasson 420
Jeff Eller 697

Posted by: Michael Herdegen [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 28, 2005 7:21 AM

Further, from the same source, written shortly after the '00 elections:

USA Today calls it "the hidden election," in which nearly 7,000 state legislative seats are decided with only minimal media and public attention. [...]

[It provides] further evidence of the disaster that Bill Clinton has been for the Democratic Party. According to the National Conference of State Legislatures, Democrats held a 1,542 seat lead in the state bodies in 1990. As of [November 2000] that lead had shrunk to 288. That's a loss of over 1,200 state legislative seats, nearly all of them under Clinton. Across the US, the Democrats control only 65 more state senate seats than the Republicans.

Further, in 1992, the Democrats controlled 17 more state legislatures than the Republicans. After November [2000], the Republicans control one more than the Democrats. Not only is this a loss of 9 legislatures under Clinton, but it is the first time since 1954 that the GOP has controlled more state legislatures than the Democrats (they tied in 1968).

Here's what happened to the Democrats under Clinton, based on our latest figures [Nov. 2000]:

- GOP seats gained in House since Clinton became president: 48
- GOP seats gained in Senate since Clinton became president: 8
- GOP governorships gained since Clinton became president: 11
- GOP state legislative seats gained since Clinton became president: 1,254 as of 1998
- State legislatures taken over by GOP since Clinton became president: 9

Posted by: Michael Herdegen [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 28, 2005 7:38 AM


Thanks for the compilation. I knew some of the story, but not all (especially the number of times guys like Podesta had to plead ignorance or memory loss).

Of course, we all remember when Clinton said (at the beginning): "my administration will be the most ethically pure in history".

I'll bet 90% of the media still thinks it was. Fools.

Posted by: jim hamlen at November 28, 2005 8:09 AM

jim, Perhaps he meant to say "ethnically" pure.

Posted by: erp at November 28, 2005 9:06 AM

Say, Micheal Herdegen -

You don't happen to have a list of the people who you claim left the country or refused to testify, do you?

I didn't think so. You're just taking as fact the claims somebody, at some point, put forward without providing details. Repeat it hundreds of times (verbatim) across dozens of the reds' websites and other blogs, and more and more feeble-minded people accept it as the gospel.

I have an idea for you and the rest of the reds - try substantiating something. Anything. Ever.

Posted by: Dave Lake at December 2, 2005 9:45 PM


Elizabeth Ward Gracen, for one.

Posted by: oj at December 3, 2005 1:21 AM