October 27, 2005


2,000 Dead, in Context (VICTOR DAVIS HANSON, 10/27/05, NY Times)

The battle for Okinawa was an abject bloodbath that took more than 50,000 American casualties, yet that campaign officially ended less than six weeks before Nagasaki and the Japanese surrender.

More important that the casualty context would be to consider what the taking of Okinawa achieved. Though a nation of only about a million people, we didn't turn back its sovereignty for almost thirty years and still maintain forces there. What's remarkable about Iraq isn't just that there have been nearly no casualties but that we're standing it up so quickly.

Posted by Orrin Judd at October 27, 2005 12:55 PM

Victor David Hanson is publishing opinion pieces in the New York Times? I think that should be taken as sufficient evidence that the left is losing the culture wars.

Posted by: Brandon at October 27, 2005 1:32 PM

Yes, in historic context, our effort in Iraq has been remarkable for its speed, effect, and loss of life. But isn't this exactly why the Left does not appreciate it? The Left has no interest in history, except in so far as it can be mined tendentiously to make claims on the future. As with a child, it has no wisdom because it has no past to learn from. Unlike the child its infantilism is culpable.

Posted by: Luciferous at October 27, 2005 2:05 PM

100,000+ Iraqis?

Posted by: anon at October 27, 2005 2:26 PM


The Ba'ath killed way more Iraqi than that.

Posted by: Annoying Old Guy at October 27, 2005 3:27 PM

The taking of Okinawa allowed me to grow up there. I learned about the greatness of the US Navy, 80's music, Voltron, had break-dancing parties, ate raw fish & filipino lumpia rolls, and got to be friends with many different types of people. All thanks to those American men who died. I can't say thank you enough.

Posted by: Scof at October 27, 2005 4:04 PM

The UN killed 500,000 Iraqi children

Posted by: oj at October 27, 2005 4:46 PM

Oh, boo, hoo, the Cameljockeys are so tough--why some of them even commit SUICIDE!

My Okinawa time bracketed reversion, after which the Camp flew both flags and played both anthems. Music only, of course, no words. They wouldn't have used the WWII words anyway:

"Across the sea, corpses in the water,
Across the mountain, corpses in the field.

I shall die for the Emperor.
I shall never look back."

Posted by: Lou Gots at October 27, 2005 5:24 PM

The Okinawa to Iraq analogy is full of holes and the obvious one is that Japan attacked the USA.

Posted by: Oldkayaker at October 27, 2005 9:07 PM