July 22, 2005

JUST GET RID OF ZION AND NO ONE WILL EVER DIE AGAIN:

The Cost of Israel And US Wars (Gideon Polya, 21 July, 2005, Countercurrents.org)

Notwithstanding the 1967 Israeli attack on the defenceless USS Liberty (34 deaths out of 206 US casualties), the US has continued to bank-roll Israel and the illegal Israeli occupation of Arab lands. Further, US support for Israel is intimately connected with the continuing US War on Muslims from Africa to Afghanistan. What has been the financial and human cost of Israel and US wars over the last half century?

For a detailed and carefully documented account of (a) the economic cost to the US and (b) the human cost of illegal war and occupation in the Israel-Occupied Palestinian Territories and the US-Occupied Iraqi and Afghan Territories see "The Economic and Human Cost of Israel & US Empire" in Media Monitors Network (see: http://world.mediamonitors.net/content/view/full/16112).

Below are some key statistics of importance for decent folk who believe in the Jeffersonian principles of the American Declaration of Independence, namely the equality of all men and their right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

Estimates of the cost of US support for Israel range from $200 billion (simple monetary value plus interest, 1949-2005) to $2,600 billion (total actual economic cost to the US, 1956-2002).

The post-1967 avoidable mortality (excess mortality) and under-5 infant mortality in the Occupied Palestine Territories have been about 320,000 and 170,000, respectively. The post-1950 avoidable mortality and under-5 infant mortality in Israel's neighbours have totalled 24 million and 17 million, respectively. The post-1950 avoidable mortality and under-5 infant mortality in countries Israel has attacked militarily have totalled 43 million and 29 million, respectively. Israel's complicity in this carnage is clear but the actual extent of its responsibility is debatable.

In the post-war era the US has economically and militarily dominated the people and resource utilization of the World and is accordingly complicit in the associated horrendous global avoidable mortality (currently about 20 million per year). The post-1950 avoidable mortality (excess mortality) has been 1.3 billion (for the World), 1.2 billion (for the non-European World) and 0.6 billion (for the Muslim World) - however the actual extent of US responsibility is debatable.


Whew, I was worried we were responsible for all 1.2 billion...

Imagine how much contempt you have to hold for these peoples to believe that they aren't responsible for anything that happens to them?

Posted by Orrin Judd at July 22, 2005 12:57 AM
Comments

Notwithstanding the 1967 Israeli attack on the defenceless USS Liberty (34 deaths out of 206 US casualties)

A show of hands: How many of you got that far and no further?

Posted by: Matt Murphy at July 22, 2005 1:30 AM

Avoidable mortality?

????

30 years ago it was over-population.

They're screaming at US either way.

Posted by: Sandy P at July 22, 2005 1:33 AM

Wow! We have already offed 600 million muslims and they are still fighting back. Them is some tough Hombres. This is going to be a long war.

Posted by: Robert Schwartz at July 22, 2005 1:57 AM

The post-1950 avoidable mortality and under-5 infant mortality in countries Israel has attacked militarily have totalled 43 million and 29 million, respectively.

Impressive.

Maybe that's why Arab nations have stopped attacking Israel directly.

Posted by: Michael Herdegen at July 22, 2005 4:34 AM

Imagine how much contempt you have to hold for these peoples to believe that they aren't responsible for anything that happens to them?

This perhaps is why, beyond all the other fine reasons, I love and read your site, OJ. Sometimes -- not too infrequently, either -- you just nail it. In one sentence. You just nail it.

As long as I'm commenting, I really think this format -- your format -- is so successful: highlighting stories that suggest larger trends and commenting upon them with insightful brevity and humor. It astonished me on my last three-month overseas stint that I kept up with current events by hitting your site once a day. That's it.

Keep up the great work, including being the only commentator to have highlighted what will forever be known as "Hitchen's Our".

Posted by: george at July 22, 2005 6:07 AM

This is sort of like that bogus figure of 200 million Indians in the pre-columbian new world. If you believe it, the discussion is over, the only conclusion is a fight to the death agaist the cancer of history. No concession, no amount of reparations even comes close, the only thing we can do is to die.

Thus is the wisdom or our alliance with Israel confirmed.

Posted by: Lou Gots at July 22, 2005 7:09 AM

Interesting magazine, Countercurrents. The title alone is enough to give the game away, but strolling thru some of the 'Editors Picks' articles, I espied gems such as Kyoto Is Not Enough and Ideas - the latter by some fella named Castro.

Posted by: Bruce Cleaver at July 22, 2005 7:25 AM

"however the actual extent of US responsibility is debatable."

I'll say!

Posted by: erp at July 22, 2005 7:43 AM

Your comment at the end is spot-on. The essence of the left-wing imagination is a solipsism often taken to the extreme of co-dependency.

Regards

Posted by: Mike Walsh, MM at July 22, 2005 7:50 AM

JUST GET RID OF ZION AND NO ONE WILL EVER DIE AGAIN

Isn't that Christianity in a nutshell.

Posted by: David Cohen at July 22, 2005 7:59 AM

Positive-sum game:
1. We withdraw from UN.
2. We increase aid to Israel by same amount.
3. We sit back and enjoy the screaming.

Posted by: Axel Kassel at July 22, 2005 8:06 AM

It's the excess -Morality- of America and Zion that really bothers these castro wannabes.

Posted by: Norden at July 22, 2005 9:09 AM

Imagine how much contempt you have to hold for these peoples to believe that they aren't responsible for anything that happens to them?

But that, of course, is the critical axiom of the left: Individuals do not control their destiny. Add to that faith in the power of central planning and everything else follows.

Posted by: Mike Earl at July 22, 2005 9:57 AM

Matt - I stopped there too, and started formulating the next sentence. "Notwithstanding the muslim attacks on Americans from the 1970's onward, the United States has not..."

Posted by: Mikey at July 22, 2005 9:59 AM

Estimates of the cost of US support for Israel range from $200 billion (simple monetary value plus interest, 1949-2005) to $2,600 billion (total actual economic cost to the US, 1956-2002).

He is obviously not counting the value of all our military contracts with Israel, Egypt, Saudi Arabia and other Mideast states. I'm sure that we come out ahead when you add those in.

Posted by: Robert Duquette at July 22, 2005 5:05 PM

I personally hold Gideon Polya responsible for all avoidable mortality since the beginning of time--in a non-speciesist fashion, although the actual extent of his liability is debatable. But, if you ask me, Gideon Polya personally murdered 97 septendecillion helpless creatures (including baby dolphins). This is the cost of countercurrents.org.

Posted by: Kevin Bowman at July 22, 2005 6:05 PM

There is no avoidable mortality. This is the cost of sin (so we are told).

Posted by: Robert Duquette at July 23, 2005 12:07 PM

Decent Israelis want genuine peace with justice - and certainly an interim peace plan NOW to stop the tragedy - rather than an endless, dishonest, genocidal war on Muslim women and children in collaboration with the US military-industrial complex, US corporate oligarchs and UK-US democratic imperialism (democratic Nazism). SOME MORE STATISTICS FOR THE "WEST SOLIPSISTICS":

The average annual death rate of Australian POWs under the Japanese in World War 2 was 10.4 per 100 (8,000 deaths out of 22,000 POWs over 3.5 years) [Australian ABC Radio National, 2003].

The annual death rate of under-5 year old infants is 5.8 per 100 in US-occupied Afghanistan and 2.6 per 100 in US-occupied Iraq due to gross Coalition violation of the Geneva Conventions for protection of civilians - terror indeed for the parents [see latest UN Population Division and UNICEF data].

The average annual death rate of Western civilians from jihadist violence has been 0.00003 per 100 (last 20 years) and 0.0001 per 100 (last 5 years) [mainstream media and official Israeli and US sources].

Current laws and procedures clearly protect Western civilians from evil jihadist terrorism - the Coalition "War on Terror" lie turns reality on its head. UK-US Coalition war criminals await justice from the International Criminal Court.

Posted by: Gideon Polya at July 28, 2005 5:56 PM
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