November 24, 2004


GOP's Rossi Wins Wash. Governor Recount (AP, 11/24/04)

Republican Dino Rossi came out ahead of Democrat Christine Gregoire by just 42 votes Wednesday in the recount for Washington governor, but the Democrats are expected to demand yet another recount.

It's the election that just keeps on giving.

Posted by Orrin Judd at November 24, 2004 4:13 PM

The Washington Sec. of State, who is a Republican needs nail this victory down. ah..legally of course.

Posted by: h-man at November 24, 2004 4:25 PM

Oh I don't think this one is over. In this so-called "sutomatic" recount, the Dems managed to introduce some 710 new ballots in (heavily Dem) King county. To count these ballots staff needed to "divine" voter intent -- why no vote for Gov? is that a dimple? all the bs. These ballots broke 2:1 for the Dems, higher than the Dems average share in the county. They got close in a process that was supposed to be pretty objective. They are calling this election a "tie" and will make sure they keep on counting until they break it!

Posted by: Moe from NC at November 24, 2004 4:51 PM

In places like Chicago and Philadelphia, the Dems election cry used to be "Vote Early! Vote Often!"

Now they just keep recounting and suing until the desired outcome is achieved. Or call it a "virtual tie", and we all know that ties go to the Dems.

Actually, I want the Dems to push this as much as possible. They are only discrediting themselves.

(Sam Reed is one of those bipartisan, non-partisan, objective, good-gov't, managerial type Republians. You know, the kind of person who follows the law to the letter even when it might not help him and his cause. The kind of guy the Dems never seem to have when they hold such offices.)

Posted by: Raoul Ortega at November 24, 2004 5:38 PM

Sound Politics from WA follows this.

Posted by: Sandy P. at November 24, 2004 6:20 PM

"divine" voter intent"

To h*ll with intent, don't care about no stinkin intent, just count the votes. Aren't voters expected to present a ballot according to the RULES.

Posted by: h-man at November 24, 2004 6:31 PM

The good news about those 700+ votes is that there aren't a lot more places to pull votes out of in King County when they do the next recount.

Posted by: Timothy at November 24, 2004 7:20 PM

What happens next is that the Dems are going to ask for (and pay for) selected hand recounts in selected precincts, such that they will find 43 votes. At that point, the state will conduct (and pay for) a hand recount of the rest of the state. As pointed out, the Dems have in effect already made a hand recount here in King Cty., so finding the necessary +43 here is really going to smell really bad.

The Dems have no reason for a recount. There have been no allegations of fraud that favor the GOP. All court rulings have gone against the GOP, allowing the Dems to count King Cty. exactly the way the Dems wanted it counted. But the talking points seem to have gone out, and the excuse already being offered by their apologists is that because there was such an decrease in the lead, from 261 to 42, that this is evidence that not all votes got counted and a third count will result an a full, honest count.

One of the conceits of the Upper Left Washington in general, and Seattle/King Cty. in particular is that "we have clean politics", not like those corrupt eastern states. Not any more, although they can reclaim that if they push through real reforms.

Posted by: Raoul Ortega at November 24, 2004 7:58 PM

I would not be surprised if enough votes to keep the governorship Democratic appear out of thin air. I mean, it is apparently POLICY in King County to alter ballots (even if the voter's intent is crystal clear, why on earth would the ballot need to be physically altered?)

Two sobering thoughts: 1. Christine Gregoire, the Dem candidate, doesn't seem to understand provisional voting even though she's the state AG and has been for years; and
(2) a Dem spokesman described their mood as optimistic and hopeful that they can "turn this thing around"--does that sound like someone concerned with a full, fair counting blah, blah, blah?

Even if the Dems prevail, remember: the Dems in St. Louis thought they pulled a fast one in 2000. Ditto the South Dakota Dems in '02. Ask Sen-elect Thune, Gov-elect Blunt, AG Ashcroft, and Sen. Talent how that worked out. Then ask Tom Daschle, Bob Holden, and Jean Carnahan. If we don't see Governor Rossi in '05, we may well see Senator Rossi in '07.

Posted by: AC at November 24, 2004 8:22 PM

The Democrats just don't seem to understand that Americans of all political stripes really hate spoilsports and whiners.

Posted by: Bart at November 25, 2004 8:46 AM

Bart --

I think you just said/implied that 'The Democrats' are not Americans. Works for me.

Posted by: Uncle Bill at November 25, 2004 9:39 AM

Uncle Bill,

Inadvertent but perhaps Freudian.

I try to analyze the election campaign and the behavior of political figures from a marketing perspective. The Democrats and Republicans are each trying to sell their respective candidates and ideas to the American people, in the same way that McDonalds tries to sell people hamburgers. The leadership of the Democratic and Republican parties are Americans in the same way that the people who run Mickey D's have to eat in order to live.

Thus, when the Democrats whine they offend their potential customer base, the American people. If McDonalds makes a lousy burger, they offend their potential customer base i.e. people who eat.

Posted by: Bart at November 25, 2004 10:02 AM