June 22, 2004

PARTY OR SELF?:

With Kerry's choices, you'd want McCain, too (Peter A. Brown, 6/22/04, Jewish World Review)

Kerry ideally would like one of three things in a running mate:

—A senator, but preferably a governor, from a major battleground state whose presence on the ticket might push it into the Democratic column.

—A racial minority or woman who could energize voters because of the candidacy's precedent-setting nature, but still pass the crucial threshold for popular support that requires such a nominee be considered presidential.

—A candidate who complements the presidential nominee in a way that sends a clear message, as the 1992 choice of Al Gore by Bill Clinton showed that the Democrats would offer a youthful, fresh-faced alternative to the Reagan/Bush years.

Yet none of those Kerry is reportedly considering seems to fit any of those molds.


Start from the proposition that Senator Kerry can't win this race but also doesn't want to be responsible for the final meltdown of the Democratic Party and there's really only one pick that makes any sense: Hillary. If nothing else it would be a way of getting Bill Clinton out on the campaign trail without acknowledging complete desperation. Ms Clinton would keep suburban women in the fold and the ex-President could help boost black turnout.

Posted by Orrin Judd at June 22, 2004 9:27 AM
Comments

I've had the unsettling thought the party has covertly asked him not to, keepimg their options open to select another candidate at the convention. Hillary?

Posted by: genecis at June 22, 2004 10:37 AM

She'd never accept.

Posted by: Brandon at June 22, 2004 12:33 PM

The problem is that modern politics no longer rewards with a second chance someone who takes a loss for the team. The days of Adlai Stevenson or William Jennings Bryan or Richard Nixon running again after losing the first time are gone. (Dole's second chance just proves this case, too.) She knows that she'll have one and one chance only, and isn't about to waste it for the privilege of becoming Algore: The Next Generation.

Posted by: Raoul Ortega at June 22, 2004 12:50 PM

The problem with Kerry picking the missus is, assuming he actually thinks he has a chance to win, he would face the prospect of having both Bill and Hillary tied to him (and most certainly pushing their own agendas) for the next four years. Given the media's dislike of the Bay State senator (currently obscured by their visceral hatred of Bush), Kerry can't be looking forward to having the press nipping at his heels while in office with the between-the-lines implication that the ticket would be much better if the positions had been reversed.

Posted by: John at June 22, 2004 1:48 PM

I still believe any benefit of picking Hillary for the Dem base will be offset (if not more so) by energizing GOPers and others who don't like Bush but don't want Hillary anywhere near the presidency.

Posted by: AWW at June 22, 2004 2:40 PM

I heard a rumor that Hillary really wants to be nomintated to the Supreme Court instead of being President.

Posted by: Jana at June 22, 2004 2:59 PM

I paid $1.869 for gas yesterday, so I'm back on board with the President.

Posted by: David Cohen at June 22, 2004 3:29 PM

David:

Are you saying that it only takes $0.131 (per gallon) to buy your vote?

Posted by: jim hamlen at June 22, 2004 4:23 PM

It won't happen.

It won't because Kerry won't pick her because she would out shine him and he is vain and egotistical enough not to pick anyone who would outshine him. Besides Bill will suck all of the oxygen out of the room and Kerry wants to keep breathing even if he does loose.

Hillary won't take it, because she doen't want to be tarred with a looser or be stuck with second fiddle until 2012 when she will be 64. Her sell by date is approaching and she wants a free shot at 2008.

She will let the party go down in 2004 and ride to the rescue in 2008. Does she care about the party? Have the Clintons ever given any evidence that they care about anybody but the Clintons?

Posted by: Robert Schwartz at June 22, 2004 10:48 PM

Hillary will be old news by 2008. She probably won't even be in the Senate.

Posted by: ratbert at June 22, 2004 11:05 PM

ratbert:

From your mouth to God's ear. But, in her mind and in Bill's she is there.

Posted by: Robert Schwartz at June 22, 2004 11:35 PM

"She will let the party go down in 2004 and ride to the rescue in 2008. Does she care about the party?"

If she really cares about her party that would be the right thing for her to do. If the Judd's prediction of a 50-0 blowout comes through the Democrats will be motivated to finally start purging the moonbats, which in the long run is their only hope.

Posted by: ralph phelan at June 24, 2004 12:01 AM

Ralph:

Isn't the opposite the case--the future of the party lies with the moonbats, an openly redistributionist politics of the Left.

Posted by: oj at June 24, 2004 12:13 AM

oj

If you believed that you wouldn't be predicting a 50-0 blowout, would you? Only if Kerry wins or comes close are the moonbats the future.

If he gets stomped then giving the party back to the centrists (i.e. someone with B. J. Clinton's policies but better personal ethics) and the Zell Miller/Joe Leiberman types is their only hope of becoming a majority party again.

Posted by: ralph phelan at June 24, 2004 11:03 AM

Hillary could care less about the party. SHe cares about one thing. Hillary. Nothing else matters.

She wont run with Kerry because she wants the number 1 slot. Kerry has probablby begged her to run even if she will outshine him because he knows he doesnt really have a prayer otherwise.

Posted by: retired military at June 24, 2004 7:21 PM

ralph:

He's running as a centrist, not least by being pro-war. The Left deserves a major political party, whether the Democratic or the Green remains to be seen. Lieberman will retire from the Senate a Republican.

Posted by: oj at June 24, 2004 8:04 PM

Hillary for Veep?

Would any potential President in his right mind want to be Hillary's "one heartbeat away" from the White House?

Doesn't sound like a long life expectancy for the Prez...

Posted by: Ken at June 24, 2004 8:08 PM

"He's running as a centrist, not least by being pro-war. "
He can "run as" anything he wants, but he's got a voting record and he's got a record of stuff he said just a few months ago when he was running for the nomination. He's a left-wing democrat and that's that.

"The Left deserves a major political party"
Why? I'd be perfectly happy with moderate libertarians getting one party and cultural conservatives getting the other. Send the Left to the ash-heap of history where they belong.

Posted by: ralph phelan at June 24, 2004 9:55 PM
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