November 3, 2006


Hispanic Voters More Interested in Abortion Issues Than Other Voters (Steven Ertelt, November 3, 2006,

Some 64 percent of Hispanics said abortion was very important while 40 percent of non-Hispanic voters said abortion was important, a difference of 24 percent.

That's important because the poll also showed 20 percent of Hispanic voters are still undecided on key Congressional races compared to just 13 percent of white voters.

Raimundo Rojas, the Hispanic outreach coordinator for the National Right to Life Committee, told that the poll validates what pro-life advocates have been saying for years about reaching out to Hispanic voters.

"Pro-life organizations and political organizations that have a pro-life message need to really work in the Hispanic community," he explained.

"As is evidenced by these polls, if Latinos are aware of the life issues they will, for the most part, vote on the side of life," Rojas told "Building the culture of life is not just a catch-phrase for Hispanics, it already is a way of life for us, but it needs to be nurtured in our communities."

Hispanics don't belong in the secular party and libertarians don't belong in the religious one.

Posted by Orrin Judd at November 3, 2006 9:52 PM

So Ron Paul, Goldwater, Hayek, Mises, Milton Friedman, Mencken, Nock, Max Eastman, Rothbard, Chodorov, and yes, even Franklin, Jefferson and Reagan don't deserve to be associated with the conservative party any more, huh? I'm not arguing for the extreme forms of libertarianism, which I admit only represent small numbers. However, large numbers of Americans have many generally libertarian beliefs, and a large proportion of people who vote Republican do.

Purging a core tradition from your ideological camp in an attempt to pander to immigrants is misguided and condescending: you really don't think economic refugees from oppressive semi-socialist hellholes might appreciate and benefit from the segment of conservative thought represented by the names above? And, of course, it's short-sighted: do you think that Bush's apparent disdain for fiscal conservatives and small-government types might have just a little to do with a lot of lackluster poll results of recent years? Those 60 Rs in the Senate you've been writing about for years don't seem likely today, do they? And somehow the NCLB, the Medicare drug benefit, and the ban on internet gambling don't seem to be helping.

The GOP may be the party with many religious people, but it's not a religious party. Your small-tent factionalism in the name of theological purity is unlikely to help either the Republican party or the conservative cause.

Posted by: PapayaSF at November 4, 2006 12:42 AM

We don't need to purge anyone--that's Communist talk. The libertarians don't need to desert either.

The Conservative coalition may persist only so long as its members continue to respect one another's domains of primary interest. The clearest example of this would be the RKBA. Other coaition members continue to back guns and the gun people stay on board to back them. Every gun person may not be enthusiastic about the right to life, but he or she goes along, acccepting live babies as part of cost of keeping the guns. We didn't sundown the "Assault" "Weapons" "Ban" on our own. Conversely, the death machine of abortion is not being dismantled without our help.

Oj is correct about the Hispanic immigrants being naturally conservative on family values. He is likewise right to say that they belong with us and not with the other side.

Those of a libertarian bent must keep in mind that politics is the art of the possible. Stick with the program and you are going to see continued motion towards an ownership economy and continued return of power to civil society and to individuals.

To this equation bring the war. Where is your "liberty" if this is lost? Consider now how keeping a winning voter coalition together is a necesary condition for victory. This is a tough one for a libertarian. As the world shrinks with technology, we can no longer hide behind distance or even oceans. Only force will keep us free.

The need to fight and to be ready to fight means that we are not going back to mythic laissez faire economics. In another world we might consider breaking up the system which preserves such liberty as we maintain. Here and now we have only war.

Posted by: Lou Gots at November 4, 2006 2:42 AM

double ditto's

Posted by: h-man at November 4, 2006 4:31 AM

of course we don't need to purge them--they're leaving because of Schiavo, gay marriage, stem cells, and compassionate conservatism/strong government. As more and more religious Latinos and blacks join the party both the libertarians and paleos will be less and less inclined to stay in it with them.

Posted by: oj at November 4, 2006 7:50 AM

Lou: As I wrote, I'm not arguing for isolationist libertarianism. I know there's a war on. And I'm not even saying we don't need a strong government: I'm saying that if the GOP abandons its small-government roots, it loses its core identity and becomes the old pre-Reagan, get-along GOP of Nixon and Dole. We go back to agreeing whatever spending Democrats want, minus 10%. No number of illegal immigrants will help.

In short, it's possible to have compassionate conservativism and fiscal discipline at the same time, and there are numerous things the GOP could do to keep libertarians happy without ticking off OJ: reform of the FDA, for example.

Posted by: PapayaSF at November 4, 2006 2:01 PM

85% of libertarians will never be happy until everyone is having aberrant sex and using dangerous drugs. The other 15% won't be happy until there is no such thing as a police department or a public road. I don't think there is anything the GOP--or any sane person--could do to keep the atheist, anarchist, acid users happy.

Posted by: Vince at November 4, 2006 2:54 PM

No, the other 15% finally finds girlfriends.

Posted by: oj at November 4, 2006 4:31 PM

There are pro-life libertarians.

Posted by: Joseph Hertzlinger at November 5, 2006 3:06 AM

There are left-handed catchers. Just not enough of either to matter.

Posted by: oj at November 5, 2006 8:54 AM