July 08, 2005
BAD MUSLIMS?
Middle East condemns London bombings (The Daily Star, July 8th, 2005)
The world recoiled in shock after bombs tore through London's transport system killing at least 37 people in a coordinated rush-hour attack. A group calling itself the Organization of Al-Qaeda Jihad in Europe claimed responsibility for the bombings and threatened similar attacks in Italy, Denmark and other countries with troops in Iraq and Afghanistan.Messages of sympathy and condolences poured in from Middle Eastern nations, some of them all too familiar with street bloodshed.
Iran and Syria joined an unbroken chorus of condemnation, as did the Palestinian Authority, the Palestinian Islamist group Hamas and Lebanon's Hizbullah.
"The use of violence to achieve aims is condemned," Iranian Foreign Ministry spokes-man Hamid Reza Asefi said.
Syrian President Bashar Assad, in a message to Prime Minister Tony Blair, condemned "these detested acts."
Hamas said that there could be no justification for the London bombings.
"Targeting civilians in their transport means and lives is denounced and rejected," Moussa Abu Marzouk, deputy chief of the group's political bureau, told Reuters in Damascus.
The Palestinian Authority denounced the attacks and conveyed its "sincere condolences to the British people and government," Palestinian negotiator Saeb Erekat said.
Lebanon, where bomb blasts this year sparked memories of its bloody civil war, expressed sympathy. President Emile Lahoud said his country "shares with the British their pain."
A Hizbullah statement on the blasts denounced such attacks on civilians, citing humanitarian, moral and religious grounds.
Leading Lebanese Shiite scholar Mohammad Hussein Fadlallah voiced outrage.
"These crimes are not accepted by any religion. It is a barbarism wholly rejected by Islam," he said.
Iraqi President Jalal Talabani said the explosions prove that terrorism is an global plague that can strike anywhere.
"What is happening in Iraq can happen in any country," Talabani, whose country is the scene of daily insurgent bombings, told reporters.
"I'm telling my Arab brothers that terrorism today in Iraq will tomorrow affect other Arab countries," he also warned.
Saudi Arabia, itself hit by a wave of terrorism by suspected Al-Qaeda militants in the past two years, "strongly condemns" the blasts, said an official source cited by the state SPA news agency.
Riyadh "reiterates that ... the international community must step up efforts to combat the terrorism scourge, which now threatens our security and the security of all our peoples," the source said.
King Mohammed VI of Morocco, whose country was hit by deadly urban bomb blasts two years ago, expressed his "firm condemnation" of the explosions, in messages to Blair and Queen Elizabeth II.
Turkey, another Middle East victims of terror attacks, denounced the attacks and pledged cooperation in the fight against terrorism, said Foreign Minister Abdullah Gul.
Jordan's King Abdullah II expressed anger at the bombings saying the "Muslim religion condemns the killing of innocents and rejects all forms of violence and terrorism."
"Everyone must close ranks and unite efforts to fight all forms of terrorism, the forces that support it and those who stand behind it," King Abdullah said, according to the statement.
Israeli Foreign Minister Silvan Shalom said that he hoped the attacks would increase international vigilance against extremists.
In the United Arab Emirates, Deputy Prime Minister and State Minister for Foreign Affairs Sheikh Hamdan bin Zayed al-Nahayan said that his country "condemns in the strongest possible terms these horrific crimes and declares full solidarity with the British government."
Kuwait denounced the "terrorist" attacks in a letter to Blair from Prime Minister Sheikh Sabah al-Ahmad al-Sabah, who is currently in the United States.
"These terrorist attacks which target innocent lives are against all human norms and values," the Kuwaiti premier said in the letter.
A source at the Qatari Foreign Ministry similarly condemned the "criminal explosions ... which are terrorist acts that flout human and moral values," according to the state Qatari News Agency.
The Riyadh-based Gulf Cooperation Council said in a statement that the club of six Gulf monarchies "condemns the terrorist attacks which hit the British capital in several locations this morning," said Secretary General Abdel-Rahman al-Attiyya.
Pakistan, which has a one-million-strong community in Britain, also denounced the attacks in London. "We offer our heartfelt sympathies to those who suffered due to such acts," Pakistan's Information Minister Sheikh Rashid said.
Or did they just all have their fingers crossed?
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Condemnation Not Enough (Adel Darwish, 7/08/05, Arab News)
The barbaric terrorist attacks in London yesterday were condemned by all civilized nations. In addition to condemning the atrocities, Muslim and Middle Eastern leaders were among the first to send messages of support, sympathy and solidarity with Britain.Words of condemnation and solidarity are fine and great in their symbolic value, but they are not enough unless backed by practical measures in cooperation with Britain and the rest of the civilized world to defeat the evil forces of terrorism.
To win the war against terror, and it must be won, we need to understand the terrorists’ strategy and tactics. First they need a motive, second an operational capability to carry out attacks, and third an aim. The last is almost impossible to identify in the case of Al-Qaeda, since it is not clear what constitutes a strategic “victory” for them. Unlike the IRA, the PLO, or ETA, who want recognition and are ready to decommission arms for political gain, Al-Qaeda’s strategy is terror for the sake of terror. And their aim is to destroy our way of life and what our democracy represents. Hence while the IRA for example gives warning before bombs designed to cause maximum disruption and economic harm go off, Al-Qaeda’s terrorists have no respect for human life.
Posted by Peter Burnet at July 8, 2005 02:21 PM
Iran, Syria and the PLO condemning terrorism is like germs complaining about disease.
Pakistan? I'll start believing what they have to say in opposition to terror when they put AQ Khan in the dock, when they stop aiding North Korea's nuke development, and especially when the ISI's agents provocateurs stop killing civilians in Kashmir.
Saudi Arabia can stop the incitement telling its schoolchildren and those in madrassas it funds all over the world that non-Muslims should be converted or killed, and it would be nice if they stopped killing Christian Eritreans and Filipinos who hold private services in their G-dforsaken piece of crap country. Then maybe I'll give a rat's derriere what some flunky has to say.
The world is not the foreign service, where clever Bedouins can outsmart mealy-mouthed, over-educated, capon-like bureaucratic functionaries on a regular basis. Actions speak louder than words. The behavior of the Muslim world is what counts and that behavior has been virtually universally abhorrent.
Posted by: bart at July 8, 2005 02:38 PMIn other news: Mafia condemns extortion; Politicians condemn bribery; Lawyers condemn overbilling.
Posted by: Shelton at July 8, 2005 02:45 PM"Hamas said that there could be no justification for the London bombings. 'Targeting civilians in their transport means and lives is denounced and rejected,' Moussa Abu Marzouk, deputy chief of the group's political bureau, told Reuters in Damascus."
Interesting. Probably the Reuters "reporter" just inadvertently left out the rest of the statement: "Except for Jews, but that goes without saying. And Americans, naturally. And all infidels, of course. And apostates. Women, too. And...aw, hell, who am I kidding here? Luckily you're just a dupe who will report whatever blather I spew without any question."
One of the pictures I remember most vividly from 9/11 is Yasser Arafat giving blook somewhere in the West Bank. I have never seen such a look of sheer terror on a human face. He obviously thought at any moment US troops would be after him.
That look should never have left the face of any terrorist ever since.
"blook" should be "blood", of course...
Posted by: at July 8, 2005 02:49 PMIran, Hamas and Hizbullah certainly had their fingers crossed.
"The use of violence to achieve aims is condemned," Iranian Foreign Ministry spokes-man Hamid Reza Asefi said.
As his government aggressively pursues the ultimate means of violence, in the absence of any military threat, while many Iranian citizens lack jobs, education, and adequate health care.
A Hizbullah statement on the blasts denounced such attacks on civilians, citing humanitarian, moral and religious grounds.
Hamas said that there could be no justification for the London bombings.
"Targeting civilians in their transport means and lives is denounced and rejected," Moussa Abu Marzouk, deputy chief of the group's political bureau, told Reuters in Damascus.
The hypocrisy is palpable.
Posted by: Michael Herdegen at July 8, 2005 02:49 PMNotice something here, Bart. Back on 9/12 or so, we heard a lot of "But-headed" statements--stuff along the lines of "Of course the loss of life is deplorable, but you brought this on yourself by supporting Israel/rejecting Kyoto/continuing the Iraq sanctions/drawing breath . . ."
Four years later, same subject matter, same crowd of middle eastern thugocrats . . . but no "but" clauses this time. I don't think they're sincere any more than you do, but they've at least learned that it's a bad idea to talk like that out loud and p.o. the Anglosphere powers.
That's progress, of a sort.
Posted by: Mike Morley at July 8, 2005 02:51 PMMike,
There is a wonderful story in The Arabists, by Robert Kaplan, about a US FOreign Service Officer who said that his goal was to get Iraq, pre-GUlf War I, to have the same level of civil liberties as Syria had at that time. While that is undoubtedly progress, it is at the pace of an escargot already in the garlic sauce and puff pastry.
Posted by: bart at July 8, 2005 02:54 PMBlook OUGHT to be a word. Tentative definition: rhetoric instead of action.
On another blog, I suggested that the expressions of regret might not be sincere and was blasted by all the lefties.
However, they uniformly doubted Bush's sincerity when he talked of bringing democracy to the Middle East.
People hear what they want to hear.
I'll start believing in these crocodile tears when they start turning over the guys behind the bombs. They know who did it.
Posted by: Harry Eagar at July 8, 2005 03:35 PMTalk is (extremely) cheap...
Posted by: Rick T. at July 8, 2005 04:11 PMBut where are the fatwahs? Where are the fatwahs?
Posted by: Genecis at July 8, 2005 04:20 PMFingers crossed. Sphincters tightened.
Posted by: ghostcat at July 8, 2005 05:02 PMWhat Harry said.
Posted by: joe shropshire at July 8, 2005 05:39 PMHarry:
Sincere? Oh my ears and whiskers. Harry, these are official government reactions. They are governmental policy statements, not mea culpasin the Confessional. Of course they are not sincere. What has that got to do with anything?
You guys have been complaining about how Islam encourages, if not compels, the slaughter of the infidel and establishment of the Caliphate and how they are all such mindless slaves to theocratic doctrine they can't think independently and just take literal, murderous orders from the Koran. Ecrasez L'infamme, etc. Now at a time when the U.S. and the Brits have invaded their home turf,and when there is a real and very difficult war going on for hearts and minds, almost every one of them (although note the absence of Egyptian reaction) condemns the Islamicists loudly. Presumably their populations are listening and we all know about that volatile Arab street.
So, is it not safe to make a short term, eyes-wide-open, preliminary hold-on-to-your-wallets presumption that either: a) they are reflecting a significant portion of public feeling; or b)they are all so secure in their positions they don't care a whit what anyone of their subjects think; or c) all one billion are sitting around their hookahs saying "Hey, did you catch old Sheikh Abdul? He's really playing those decadent Westerners like a violin. Now, remember, don't tell anyone--it's our little Islamic secret."
I dunno, I'm just a country boy, but I rather thing b) and c) are a little unlikely.
What do you want--4th of July Day parades and petitions for statehood? This is the Middle East for cryin' out loud.
Posted by: Peter B at July 8, 2005 06:25 PMI am ready to distinguish good Muslims from Sheridan's good Indians, when that becomes possible. Names, we want names. When they start giving up some terrorists, I'll start trusting them.
Posted by: Lou Gots at July 8, 2005 07:18 PMPeter,
If you really believe the protestations of all these terrorists and their enablers, then you really are dumb as a box of rocks. And I never would have thought so before.
I want them to cancel the fatwas, to stop financing the madrassas that teach people to kill Westerners, to stop killing Christians and other non-Muslims in their own lands, to stop the financing of terror throughout the world. I really don't think that is a huge request.
Posted by: bart at July 8, 2005 08:08 PMAs was said in the New York Times today, when Salman Rushdie wrote a book critical of Mohammed, the Ayatollah Khomeini issued a special super duper death warrant type Fatwah. With Osama Bin Laden and his desperados...nothing from anybody other than the Spanish Muslim Clerics (probably pressured by the new Spanish Govt who were afraid they might be pressured by the public to actually do something). As Genesis says above where are the Fatwah's
Posted by: h-man at July 8, 2005 08:18 PMBart:
...then you really are dumb as a box of rocks. And I never would have thought so before.
Yeah, well, me and President Bush share that little handicap. We don't like to talk about it much, but the good news is we've both signed up for evening extension courses starting in September. So, can you give us a little more time? Thanks, buddy.
Peter,
I don't believe everything Bush says either. Also, I am far less than 100% convinced that Bush is willing to disrupt his family's financial dealings with the Saudi 'royal' family in order to fight terror.
Posted by: bart at July 9, 2005 12:46 PMHey, what am I, chopped liver? What about my family's financial dealings with the Saudis? How come he gets to be corrupt and I'm just stupid?
Posted by: Peter B at July 9, 2005 01:50 PM